08 Deer Season

[freemind]

So, how is deer season sucess so far for hunters?

So far I have bagged one bonus doe in shotgun. Hope to fill all tags soon.

For those interested, you can donate your deer to Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry. www.fhfh.org

Local processors in Steuben county are :
Ansteads Market And Kains deer processing.

Processing is FREE for donated deer. The meat is then sent to LOCAL food pantries.

[HoosierHelen]

So, how is deer season sucess so far for hunters?

So far I have bagged one bonus doe in shotgun. Hope to fill all tags soon.

For those interested, you can donate your deer to Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry. www.fhfh.org

Local processors in Steuben county are :
Ansteads Market And Kains deer processing.

Processing is FREE for donated deer. The meat is then sent to LOCAL food pantries.

Inasmuch as I am NOT a hunter, can you fill me in Freemind? How many deer can 1 hunter kill and donate to the food pantries? I did click on that link - but didn't see the stastics for these numbers?

I'm not familiar with the rules, but this is one time of the year that I expect it is important to know the rules.

Thanks.
Helen

[freemind]

Inasmuch as I am NOT a hunter, can you fill me in Freemind? How many deer can 1 hunter kill and donate to the food pantries? I did click on that link - but didn't see the stastics for these numbers?

I'm not familiar with the rules, but this is one time of the year that I expect it is important to know the rules.

Thanks.
Helen


Helen,
If a hunter only hunts regular seasons ( BOW, FIREARM, MUZZELOADER) and doesn't hunt those reserve hunts, one hunter can harvest 7 deer. Only ONE may be a buck, per Indiana rules of one buck a year per hunter.

This is Stueben numbers anyway. Bonus antlerless are determined by county.

If a hunter donated all those deer, that would provide 1400 meals (a meal is 1/4 pound of meat)


Hope that helps Helen.

[jennJAC]

I hear the deer weren't moving to much Saturday morning but one of my brothers bagged a doe. My father got a doe Sunday am and then a brother got a buck just yesterday. The competitor has risen in all of them so I'm sure there will be more! Happy hunting and be safe!

[james_t]

If a hunter only hunts regular seasons ( BOW, FIREARM, MUZZELOADER) and doesn't hunt those reserve hunts, one hunter can harvest 7 deer.

I don't have a problem with hunting - I figure the deer isn't any worse off than the cow in the burger I eat - but I keep wondering if the hunting community (and this isn't just you, free, I hear the phrase a lot) isn't trying to be too PC with "harvesting" deer.

I keep wondering who planted them, and if there's some chemical I can get to keep them from sprouting up like weeds all over the roads I drive on.

More on topic, a friend of mine said he thought he'd got one Saturday afternoon but apparently it was not a fatal shot and the deer got away.

[freemind]

I don't have a problem with hunting - I figure the deer isn't any worse off than the cow in the burger I eat - but I keep wondering if the hunting community (and this isn't just you, free, I hear the phrase a lot) isn't trying to be too PC with "harvesting" deer.

I keep wondering who planted them, and if there's some chemical I can get to keep them from sprouting up like weeds all over the roads I drive on.

More on topic, a friend of mine said he thought he'd got one Saturday afternoon but apparently it was not a fatal shot and the deer got away.

You figure deer are as well off as cows? Or do you mean the meat is just as good from a cow?

The DNR planted them years ago. Kentucky recently "planted" elk a few years back.
The word "harvest" is fitting to me. Perhaps it seems PC, I really don't know. I look a the deer population like a farmer looks at crops. Deer season is a time to harvest nature's bounty. The only thing I don't hunt and eat are members of the foul family. Birds stink aweful IMO.


I have honestly only shot and NOT recovered one deer. That was enough of a lesson to send me back to the range. Being proficient with arms is a MUST IMO. I take pride in my marksmanship skills. One shot, one kill if you will. I am not snobby like some other hunters, who look down on people that don't palce a kill shot well. I only suggest that they improve their marksman skills and become as proficient with their weapon as possible. One MUST shoot a rifle/shotgun more than 5 or 6 rounds before season to be familular with it.

[james_t]

You figure deer are as well off as cows? Or do you mean the meat is just as good from a cow?

I mean I don't think the deer's death by gunfire is any less humane than the cow's by slaughterhouse. It's definitely more humane than the deer getting smushed by my car.

I'm not a huge venison fan, though I've had some pretty good chili made with venison. Someone brought in some summer sausage made with venison once and it was way too greasy for my taste.

[blue adept]

You figure deer are as well off as cows? Or do you mean the meat is just as good from a cow?

The DNR planted them years ago. Kentucky recently "planted" elk a few years back.
The word "harvest" is fitting to me. Perhaps it seems PC, I really don't know. I look a the deer population like a farmer looks at crops. Deer season is a time to harvest nature's bounty. The only thing I don't hunt and eat are members of the foul family. Birds stink aweful IMO.


I have honestly only shot and NOT recovered one deer. That was enough of a lesson to send me back to the range. Being proficient with arms is a MUST IMO. I take pride in my marksmanship skills. One shot, one kill if you will. I am not snobby like some other hunters, who look down on people that don't palce a kill shot well. I only suggest that they improve their marksman skills and become as proficient with their weapon as possible. One MUST shoot a rifle/shotgun more than 5 or 6 rounds before season to be familular with it.

AS somebody that used to hunt regularly, if you are turning up your nose at pheasant, then you should really try them first. It is the only game I personally miss harvesting. Wonderful taste.

[ebbieday]

AS somebody that used to hunt regularly, if you are turning up your nose at pheasant, then you should really try them first. It is the only game I personally miss harvesting. Wonderful taste.

I couldn't agree more. Hubby, our 3 sons and F-I-L hunt pheasant every November and we have the most wonderful stew to go along with the turkey and fixins at Thanksgiving. Everyone raves about how good it is.

I just read that the Chain O' Lakes hunt bagged 86 deer. That's a lot of deer. Pokagon wasn't even near that amount. Is that typical?

[bigbass]

I don't have a problem with hunting - I figure the deer isn't any worse off than the cow in the burger I eat - but I keep wondering if the hunting community (and this isn't just you, free, I hear the phrase a lot) isn't trying to be too PC with "harvesting" deer.

Just out of curiosity, what would you rather hear it called?

[TheBigB]

Just out of curiosity, what would you rather hear it called?

"Thinning the deer population by the use of bow & arrow or firearm." :stupido:

[blue adept]

Just out of curiosity, what would you rather hear it called?

How bout blasting bambie? Just joking, no really.

[bigbass]

I'm going to start saying that I have been "culling the Odocoileus virginianus population".

[matt_s]

Just out of curiosity, what would you rather hear it called?

I've got it, how about we call it:

**Drum Roll**

Hunting

Everything else is just trying to help squeamish people feel better about the things that they are afraid to admit the like to eat.

On a lighter note, I guess we could go into the over-the-top naming conventions that news channels and ESPN are getting into - everything is an event, so it has its own "name".

Bambie Butcher '08
The Great Deer Demise
Buckapalooza
The Herd Hullaballoo
The Shot herd around the field
...

[james_t]

I agree with Matt. You hunt deer. You harvest corn.

[freemind]

AS somebody that used to hunt regularly, if you are turning up your nose at pheasant, then you should really try them first. It is the only game I personally miss harvesting. Wonderful taste.


I have no dog to hunt with Blue. I have tried "walking" pheasents before and without sucess.

I wouldn't be opposed to eating them. However, I would be OPPOSED to cleaning the stinking fowl. Can't stand the smell of any fowl.

[freemind]

I mean I don't think the deer's death by gunfire is any less humane than the cow's by slaughterhouse. It's definitely more humane than the deer getting smushed by my car.

I'm not a huge venison fan, though I've had some pretty good chili made with venison. Someone brought in some summer sausage made with venison once and it was way too greasy for my taste.


Heh, I hit a deer this summer with a straight truck, and I can say with CERTAINTY that it felt nothing.


Greasy summer sausage? My bet is they added too much pork or pork fat. Venison is pretty fat free. Actually it is so dry, unless you add fat, you can't fry it into a patty for burgers.

[mrs.bass46703]

deer =food for family good thing !

[Copycatted]

So, how is deer season sucess so far for hunters?

So far I have bagged one bonus doe in shotgun. Hope to fill all tags soon.

For those interested, you can donate your deer to Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry. www.fhfh.org (http://www.fhfh.org)

Local processors in Steuben county are :
Ansteads Market And Kains deer processing.

Processing is FREE for donated deer. The meat is then sent to LOCAL food pantries.


Interesting fremind about processing for free. May do that later. Got one (b) at Ansteads now. Took a doe up there a couple weeks ago,both with an bow.

[bigbass]

I've got it, how about we call it:

**Drum Roll**

Hunting

Everything else is just trying to help squeamish people feel better about the things that they are afraid to admit the like to eat.

On a lighter note, I guess we could go into the over-the-top naming conventions that news channels and ESPN are getting into - everything is an event, so it has its own "name".

Bambie Butcher '08
The Great Deer Demise
Buckapalooza
The Herd Hullaballoo
The Shot herd around the field
...


It's only hunting until you knock one down, then it's something else. As Mr. Ted Nugent would say "Wackin and Stackin".

[blue adept]

I have no dog to hunt with Blue. I have tried "walking" pheasents before and without sucess.

I wouldn't be opposed to eating them. However, I would be OPPOSED to cleaning the stinking fowl. Can't stand the smell of any fowl.

Although I used to have hunting dogs, I never used them for pheasants. I always found walking the perimeter of my grandparents cornfields and wheat fields to be best. The real trick is to make sure you are walking into the wind, and into the sun is good too, if you can do both. also, walk slowly, and quietly, it is well worth the stink.

[james_t]

A reader just sent us photos of his 11-year-old with the nine-point buck he shot near Waterloo.

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=199:9-point-buck&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

[freemind]

A reader just sent us photos of his 11-year-old with the nine-point buck he shot near Waterloo.

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=199:9-point-buck&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

Nice buck for the youngster.

[hairypumper]

AS somebody that used to hunt regularly, if you are turning up your nose at pheasant, then you should really try them first. It is the only game I personally miss harvesting. Wonderful taste.

Another vote for Pheasant. My wife gets great recipes from the internet and PF magazine. Hey Blue, you want a good bird dog?

[blue adept]

Another vote for Pheasant. My wife gets great recipes from the internet and PF magazine. Hey Blue, you want a good bird dog?

Thanks but no thanks, we have two right now. WE had three but I had to have one of our Beagles put down after 14 years.

[hairypumper]

Thanks but no thanks, we have two right now. WE had three but I had to have one of our Beagles put down after 14 years.

I'm sorry to hear that. It's hard to lose a best friend.

[james_t]

Another reader-submitted story - and photos - of deer hunting success:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=202:father-son-report-good-deer-hunting-story&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

[ebbieday]

These are precious stories. I couldn't kill one myself, but the memories these fathers and sons are making will last a lifetime. Thanks for sharing.

[freemind]

These are precious stories. I couldn't kill one myself, but the memories these fathers and sons are making will last a lifetime. Thanks for sharing.


That's too bad. The hunting circle can allways use more ladies in the hunting ranks.

Do you like to target shoot? Pistol or rifle perhaps? Ever bust any clays?

[james_t]

Another reader-submitted doe photo:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=205:doe-on-second-day&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

Also, the friend I mentioned last week fold me he got a 14-point buck just west of Kendallville.

And for those of you interested in donating venison, we have an article about Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry today:

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2008/11/23/the_news_sun/features/life/hid110397sect_381068fa74cb830a96.txt

[ebbieday]

That's too bad. The hunting circle can allways use more ladies in the hunting ranks.

Do you like to target shoot? Pistol or rifle perhaps? Ever bust any clays?


I was interested in trying the hunting thing when I was a kid. I remember one Thanksgiving afternoon at Grandma & Grandpa's house...Gramps and my one younger male cousin getting ready to go out for a little while. I asked if I could go. "No, hunting isn't for girls" they said. I lost interest pretty much immediately and never cared to try after that. As far as target shooting, yes, I have been many times. I have my own hand guns. Never did the clay shooting thing...hubby and kids have asked me to go, but I choose to let them have that time together. I may go some time, but haven't yet.

[freemind]

I was interested in trying the hunting thing when I was a kid. I remember one Thanksgiving afternoon at Grandma & Grandpa's house...Gramps and my one younger male cousin getting ready to go out for a little while. I asked if I could go. "No, hunting isn't for girls" they said. I lost interest pretty much immediately and never cared to try after that. As far as target shooting, yes, I have been many times. I have my own hand guns. Never did the clay shooting thing...hubby and kids have asked me to go, but I choose to let them have that time together. I may go some time, but haven't yet.


Yes MA'AM hunting IS for "girls". My wife chooses not to hunt, as she can't stand the weather being a lady from Texas.

I do urge you to try clays. There are fun. Try a 20 gauge, if you don't care for the recoil from a 12 gauge. This is really fun for the whole family.

If you would like to try hunting, perhaps starting small, like woodchuck hunting, would be a good place to start. Woodchucks destroy barns and pasture, wherever they exist. You have to have good marksmanship skills, and be patient to hunt them. A 17 HMR or MACH2 or even a 22 WMR or LR are good rimfires to hunt them with, and produce little to no recoil.

Just a thought.

[james_t]

10-point buck bagged in Howe:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=206:hunter-sams-takes-a-10-point-buck&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

[freemind]

10-point buck bagged in Howe:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=206:hunter-sams-takes-a-10-point-buck&catid=46:general&Itemid=2


WOW, that is one SWEET wallhanger!

[kingster]

That sure is a rack to be proud of !

[james_t]

The Outdoor Page has photos of a 10-point buck shot near Avilla:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=214:10-point-buck&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

and a buck processed at Clear Lake donated to FHFH:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=216:buck-donated-to-fhfh&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

[james_t]

Five-point buck near Kendallville:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=218:5-point-buck&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

[ebbieday]

At dinner yesterday, one of my step brothers brought some delicious garlic deer sausage. This past week he got 2 bucks and one doe. Man that stuff was good!! Congrats to all the hunters who get their quotas!

[kingster]

The 10 point in Avilla said it was taken at a food plot he planted .Isn't that illegal baiting?

[james_t]

The 10 point in Avilla said it was taken at a food plot he planted .Isn't that illegal baiting?

I ran this question by Cindy Bevington, Outdoor Page editor, and she responded as follows:

A food plot is a field, often many acres, that someone has planted with vegetation that deer, turkeys and other wildlife like to graze on. Food plots/fields are encouraged by environmentalists because they not only attract and nourish wildlife of all kinds, but also benefit the nature around them. Illegal baiting is when you put out salt blocks or special types of food in one spot specifically to "bait" or trick a deer -- or whatever you're hunting -- into feeding on the bait during the hunting season, where it is ultimately killed by the illegal hunter.

[kingster]

So I guess it depends on the size and the intent because it sounds to me like it could leave some grey areas.Do you know anything about this Free?

[HoosierHelen]

I ran this question by Cindy Bevington, Outdoor Page editor, and she responded as follows:

A food plot is a field, often many acres, that someone has planted with vegetation that deer, turkeys and other wildlife like to graze on. Food plots/fields are encouraged by environmentalists because they not only attract and nourish wildlife of all kinds, but also benefit the nature around them. Illegal baiting is when you put out salt blocks or special types of food in one spot specifically to "bait" or trick a deer -- or whatever you're hunting -- into feeding on the bait during the hunting season, where it is ultimately killed by the illegal hunter.

I do not hunt, however, my understanding of the law is that you can raise crops on your land that will entice wildlife to feed upon it. That is legal.

If you place salt licks and/or fresh meat to attract a particular hunted species..you are breaking our laws. That all seems legal to me?

Helen

[freemind]

So I guess it depends on the size and the intent because it sounds to me like it could leave some grey areas.Do you know anything about this Free?


Actually yes. If you "plant" anything, be it crops or those special seeds for food plots (no matter how big or small) that is legal. Growing something for the wildlife to forage on is legal, even if you hunt over it.

Now, feeding the finished product of crops (corn, soybeans, oats, rye, alfalfa hay) as well as using block licks, loose mineral, ect is illegal, even IF you feed it year round. ( for hunting purposes)

One thing the DNR DOESN'T clearly define is "baited area". If a person were to put out mineral to help bucks grow rack, and help doe's get more nurishment, how big is a "baited area"? The whole parcel one hunts? 100 yard square area around the suppliment?

Personally, I don't know WHY baiting should be illegal. Hunters who fill tags, buy more tags, generating revenue for the state. Also people who fill their requirements for meat, would be MORE apt to donate extra deer to programs such as FHFH.

If the state thinks baiting is a bad idea, why allow stores, such as Wal-mart and Rural King to sell those deer blocks?

[LuciusBeebe]

Personally, I don't know WHY baiting should be illegal. Hunters who fill tags, buy more tags, generating revenue for the state. Also people who fill their requirements for meat, would be MORE apt to donate extra deer to programs such as FHFH.

To use your own lingo, that's apples to oranges. Baiting versus buying tags?

Seems to me that the laws are in place to even the playing field. Not for the deer. You say baiting should be legal, fine. So the guy who has time to bait left and right should have an advantage over the guy who only has time to traipse out there with a gun and some hope?

I know what you believe. The guy that has that time should be rewarded. Fine. Don't really have a problem with that.

The problem I have is with the inevitible arms race. Baits. Nice. What next? Auto fire guns? Why not? The logic for allowing baits should apply to the guns, right? Then what? Traps?

At the end of the day, its about the spirit of the hunt. Pardon me, but baits? Nuts to that. Why not just put drugs in the baits so they'll be that much easier to shoot?




Fine, fine. Just tell me why you want to use baits. To make it easier, right? So where would you draw the line?

[freemind]

To use your own lingo, that's apples to oranges. Baiting versus buying tags?

Seems to me that the laws are in place to even the playing field. Not for the deer. You say baiting should be legal, fine. So the guy who has time to bait left and right should have an advantage over the guy who only has time to traipse out there with a gun and some hope?

I know what you believe. The guy that has that time should be rewarded. Fine. Don't really have a problem with that.

The problem I have is with the inevitible arms race. Baits. Nice. What next? Auto fire guns? Why not? The logic for allowing baits should apply to the guns, right? Then what? Traps?

At the end of the day, its about the spirit of the hunt. Pardon me, but baits? Nuts to that. Why not just put drugs in the baits so they'll be that much easier to shoot?




Fine, fine. Just tell me why you want to use baits. To make it easier, right? So where would you draw the line?


This nonsensical ramblings, from a guy who owns NO guns, and LIKELY does NOT hunt.

I HOPE this was an attempt at sarcasm, because I don't see it.

AND before you go spouting off about anything else, let me REMIND you who contributes the most funding for the DNR and it's projects.
It is people LIKE me who BUY the licenses. NOT your run of the mill non hunting taxpayer.

[james_t]

That's too bad. The hunting circle can allways use more ladies in the hunting ranks.

This ought to be encouraging to you:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=225:olivia-drerup-downs-another-deer&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

[hairypumper]

Well, the kid didn't get his deer this year, but I got a whole freezer full of pheasants. Two more weekends and I can start focusing on bunnies.

[james_t]

Nine-point buck:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=229:9-point-buck&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

[HoosierHelen]

Well, the kid didn't get his deer this year, but I got a whole freezer full of pheasants. Two more weekends and I can start focusing on bunnies.

I have 3/4 acre garden in my backyard. A large buck and doe were grazing the remains yesterday morning. Then they wondered thru my backyard and up my driveway and looked both ways (I swear) then crossed State Road 1 and entered a corn field that had been recently harvested. They seemed to be quite wise to the small town rules here. LOL!

I don't believe a hunter was in site..at least I never heard a gun and they were good sized. Ahh well - perhaps they have another assignment for the winter?

[kingster]

Thats quite a rack!

[james_t]

More photos of successful hunts:

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=235:alicia-walter-takes-her-first-deer&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=234:9-point-buck&catid=46:general&Itemid=2

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=231:6-year-old-gets-8-pointed&catid=46:general&Itemid=2#JOSC_TOP

http://www.kpcnews.net/outdoors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=233:more-bucks-at-bebers&catid=38:hunting&Itemid=27

[bigbass]

At dinner yesterday, one of my step brothers brought some delicious garlic deer sausage. This past week he got 2 bucks and one doe. Man that stuff was good!! Congrats to all the hunters who get their quotas!

Ebbie,

Maybe your step brother got more than his "quota" unless he was hunting in another state.

Indiana has a 1 buck law.

Or maybe that was just a typo, right? :embarrassed: