ABC Primetime, blatant racism experiment

[JoRCjustice]

Did anyone else watch Primetime and see what they called a social experiment. Dealing with illegal aliens and than the ugly American experiment in France.

Was this set up fair or was it an extremely biased and blatant attempt to push their own agendas on current issues?
Especially painting an inaccurate picture of the ugly American overseas and here in our own country.
A person that feels illegal immigration is wrong isn’t always rude and crude like the biased picture and set up by Primetime’s John Quinones.
Having worked in industries with thousands of races, immigrants, and tourist from all over the country and world. The picture Quinones painted is inaccurate and a disingenuous act to push mainly one groups agenda.
Also my wife of eighteen years is Mexican, she and her family are anti illegal aliens, which is a legal issue not a race issue.
Just curious how others felt.


http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=6551048&page=1

[matt_s]

Did anyone else watch Primetime and see what they called a social experiment. Dealing with illegal aliens and than the ugly American experiment in France.

Was this set up fair or was it an extremely biased and blatant attempt to push their own agendas on current issues?
Especially painting an inaccurate picture of the ugly American overseas and here in our own country.
A person that feels illegal immigration is wrong isn’t always rude and crude like the biased picture and set up by Primetime’s John Quinones.
Having worked in industries with thousands of races, immigrants, and tourist from all over the country and world. The picture Quinones painted is inaccurate and a disingenuous act to push mainly one groups agenda.
Also my wife of eighteen years is Mexican, she and her family are anti illegal aliens, which is a legal issue not a race issue.
Just curious how others felt.

http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=6551048&page=1

I spent a year in Europe. I've also been to a couple of other countries. I've got to say that the people who created the "Ugly American" stereotype. Do exist. Are the majority of the Americans that travel abroad. No. But they certainly do exist.

I didn't see the ABC special on this. But, I've meet all parts of what I'm assuming they portrayed: The loudmouth, the high and mighty, the peering down upon the "little folk" of the rest of the world, the sense of entitlement, the sense that foreign rules don't apply to them.

I was on the receiving end of an "ugly American" experience from an American Tourist who visited Denmark while I was there. I ran into a man and his wife wandering around Copenhagen muttering loudly how inconvenient it is that this backward little country couldn't be bothered to put signs in English. I asked if I could help translate something for him. They said something about thanking God that they found somebody that spoke at least passable English (I didn't bother to tell them where I was from, I just smiled and considered that most people there spoke better English than they did as they start learning it at the age of 10). They were trying to get to some tourist spot or another. So I explained how to get there said good bye and then turned to go on my way when the wife started to complain about how rude I was being in simply assuming that they would be able to find their way (a total of about 5 blocks) and that as a "local" I should really provide better service to them as tourists and feel compelled to escort them.

That was when I decided to help them better understand their relationship to both me and the country the were GUESTS in. I felt much better afterward and she was quite red faced.

I ran into the loud mouth business man type in Paris when I was there for a few days. This is the type that thought everything in Europe was so quaint and that Americans had the BEST of everything and felt it necessary to tell anybody that they ran into of this fact.

[cynicalfoe]

Did anyone else watch Primetime and see what they called a social experiment. Dealing with illegal aliens and than the ugly American experiment in France.

Was this set up fair or was it an extremely biased and blatant attempt to push their own agendas on current issues?
Especially painting an inaccurate picture of the ugly American overseas and here in our own country.
A person that feels illegal immigration is wrong isn’t always rude and crude like the biased picture and set up by Primetime’s John Quinones.
Having worked in industries with thousands of races, immigrants, and tourist from all over the country and world. The picture Quinones painted is inaccurate and a disingenuous act to push mainly one groups agenda.
Also my wife of eighteen years is Mexican, she and her family are anti illegal aliens, which is a legal issue not a race issue.
Just curious how others felt.


http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=6551048&page=1

I am sure it was biased. I believe the news is no longer a reliable source for the truth on pretty much everything. The news is whatever the news person wants it to be.

[JohnBoy44]

I am sure it was biased. I believe the news is no longer a reliable source for the truth on pretty much everything. The news is whatever the news person wants it to be.

right. The ABC news experiments have been live footage.

But, maybe you're one who ascribes to the Stephen Colbert quote:

"reality has a well liberal bias"

[Charles]

I caught the beginning of it and had to turn the channel, scrubs was on :)
My question, why do it on illegal's, and why not take a white man into a black community or a black man into a white community? I know this excists in our country, but every race does it. and my opinion on illegals is if they come over here the wrong way, cant speak a lick of english, and treat us like we are the worst race there is... then i am against you. i wont yell at them and make fun of them like they did on this show, im more matture than that and have no idea if they have work visas or became a citizen... and it would get me no where to yell and make fun if i NEW they here illegal, but that "special" was pointless in my eyes... im sure there is more important "news".. IMO

[blue adept]

A person that feels illegal immigration is wrong isn’t always rude and crude like the biased picture and set up by Primetime’s John Quinones.
Having worked in industries with thousands of races, immigrants, and tourist from all over the country and world. The picture Quinones painted is inaccurate and a disingenuous act to push mainly one groups agenda.
Also my wife of eighteen years is Mexican, she and her family are anti illegal aliens, which is a legal issue not a race issue.
Just curious how others felt.


http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=6551048&page=1


I am sure it was biased. I believe the news is no longer a reliable source for the truth on pretty much everything. The news is whatever the news person wants it to be.


I have always found that there are two sides to a story. Having heard both sides, I find that the truth is almost always somewhere in the middle. That being said, the harder you blow, doesn't mean that what you say is anymore truthful. I am sure there are many illegals here in this country, I am also sure, many of the "illegals" you people think are illegal are not. As far as the arrogant American, I can assure you he exists, just as surely as the arrogant Frenchman.

[HoosierHelen]

That was when I decided to help them better understand their relationship to both me and the country the were GUESTS in. I felt much better afterward and she was quite red faced.


That was a great story Matt!

Years ago I took a business trip to Hong Kong and traveled with a much older woman who was on the frail side. We arrived into Hong Kong around midnight their time. As we were waiting to claim our luggage, 2 large German business men who had been on our plane actually strong elbowed the older lady with me almost pushing her to the floor to grab their bags, laughed, said something in German and took off. Never even checking to see if she was hurt or anything.

They had been loud and annoying on the flight over and drinking heavily on the plane. Much to our dismay, when we finally got to our hotel and began checking in, we found those 2 harsh fellows were staying on the same concierge floor that we were. Mornings & evenings the concierge area served breakfast and evening open bar and snacks. We ended up avoiding most of those occassions because they were so annoying.

I don't believe all Germans behave like those 2. In retrospect, I've often wondered what kind of business they were doing in Hong Kong and how they may have treated any Chinese people they were dealing with.

[evilkumquat]

I don't believe all Germans behave like those 2. In retrospect, I've often wondered what kind of business they were doing in Hong Kong and how they may have treated any Chinese people they were dealing with.

Douglas Adams had some funny things to say about German tourists in his non-fiction book, Last Chance to See.

[JoRCjustice]

I spent a year in Europe. I've also been to a couple of other countries.

That was when I decided to help them better understand their relationship to both me and the country the were GUESTS in. I felt much better afterward and she was quite red faced.

I ran into the loud mouth business man type in Paris when I was there for a few days. This is the type that thought everything in Europe was so quaint and that Americans had the BEST of everything and felt it necessary to tell anybody that they ran into of this fact.
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Matt,
I have seen rude Americans but also found the rudeness and ability to discriminate to be equal. Not as a country in whole but how some people are. The ugly American was a book written years ago. Living in working out west in the tourist industry I found the ugliness has no boundaries or race factor.

I was at the Fiesta casino in Las Vegas for a breakfast buffet just before eleven when they stopped serving breakfast and was told it's fine. I went to have an omelet made and waited as a Spanish Speaking woman and the server talked back and forth for five minutes all the time looking at me.
Finely he made her omelet and they both gave me dirty looks and when I asked him to make my omelet he said they are not serving breakfast anymore and walked away.
Little did he know that I new the Casino mgr. and I reported the incident of course he comped me another meal. I know the man was disciplined.

From my wife being called coconut to other incidents, being told to learn Spanish there is an equal amount of disrespectful attitude and I feel the continual painting of all Americans as racist and rude is a real disservice just for Quinones agenda.
I have a thousand stories since 1977 on the reality that are sometimes cultural difference or that are rude or border on racist and not just from white Americans. Our saddest equality.