new dollar tree

[mrs.bass46703]

does anyone know if they are going to keep two dollar trees open or close the one by pebbles and just have one by Kohl's. Also how many other people think opening more stores in this town is a waste of money? i mean so many things are closing and yet we open new store when we can't even keep the stuff open we already have?

[evilkumquat]

I personally think the Kohls store was lured here by unscrupulous people who convinced the investors this area could support the place.

I won't name any names; they know who they are.

And please don't blame the current economy.

Even during the boom we had under Clinton, and before the **** really hit the fan under Bush, does anyone here REALLY think Steuben County, let along Angola, could REALLY support TWO major department stores (Walmart and Meijers) AND a Kohls?

Maybe if Angola had an influx of year-round residency (maybe a couple more thousand) we could do it.

I wonder if the Kohls people came in the summer, saw how busy the place was, and said to themselves "This place'll do" without talking to a single native?

[flatbird1]

If they don't survive they can get a government bail out.

[mrs.bass46703]

thats true but of course they won't bailout your average everyday person.

[denali]

does anyone know if they are going to keep two dollar trees open or close the one by pebbles and just have one by Kohl's. Also how many other people think opening more stores in this town is a waste of money? i mean so many things are closing and yet we open new store when we can't even keep the stuff open we already have?

I am certain that they will be closing the Dollar Store by Peebles. I am sure that they are moving because Kohl's is a bigger draw than what is at the center now and I was told by an employee that the new Dollar Store will be much bigger. I don't think that opening a new store is a waste of money, discount stores like Wal-Mart and possibly the Dollar Stores are showing positive sales as people are discount shopping rather than the higher end stores.

[denali]

I personally think the Kohls store was lured here by unscrupulous people who convinced the investors this area could support the place.

I won't name any names; they know who they are.

And please don't blame the current economy.

Even during the boom we had under Clinton, and before the **** really hit the fan under Bush, does anyone here REALLY think Steuben County, let along Angola, could REALLY support TWO major department stores (Walmart and Meijers) AND a Kohls?

Maybe if Angola had an influx of year-round residency (maybe a couple more thousand) we could do it.

I wonder if the Kohls people came in the summer, saw how busy the place was, and said to themselves "This place'll do" without talking to a single native?

I am not certain but I would think that Kohl's did market research not based just on the summer traffic or people's word. Only time will tell if this area will support, Wal-Mart, Meijer's and Kohl's, although I think that Kohl's is a completely different store than Meijer's and Wal-Mart.

[denali]

thats true but of course they won't bailout your average everyday person.

I personally don't think that the govt. should bail out any company or any person, we all need to sink or swim.

[TheBigB]

Even during the boom we had under Clinton, and before the **** really hit the fan under Bush, does anyone here REALLY think Steuben County, let along Angola, could REALLY support TWO major department stores (Walmart and Meijers) AND a Kohls?

Maybe if Angola had an influx of year-round residency (maybe a couple more thousand) we could do it.

I wonder if the Kohls people came in the summer, saw how busy the place was, and said to themselves "This place'll do" without talking to a single native?


Just a few points of order:

1. Kohl's is very, very good at doing market research. They rarely open stores that don't do well in the long run. There is a reason why they've done pretty well as a mid-level department store when almost all of the others have failed.

2. Haven't you lived in Steuben County for most if not almost all your life? You do realize that Steuben County gets a lot of shoppers from Lagrange, Williams (OH), Hillsdale (MI), and Branch (MI) counties, right?

[miriam1]

2. Haven't you lived in Steuben County for most if not almost all your life? You do realize that Steuben County gets a lot of shoppers from Lagrange, Williams (OH), Hillsdale (MI), and Branch (MI) counties, right?


And a lot of people from Auburn come to Angola to shop. I know I will be heading north as opposed to Ft. Wayne more often...less traffic, less people, shorter wait for restaurants during busy times. A lot of people here in Auburn are jealous of what you have in Angola!! We want a Kohl's and a Meijer's but know we will never get them because we are too close to Ft. Wayne.

[evilkumquat]

See the problem with not bailing out the Big 3 is that all of the little industries that make parts for Cheverolet,Ford and Chrysher would also suffer and it would mean layoffs for thousands of people. Ya in the back of my mind I don't think it's right to bail them out,but why make the situation worse for lots of other people. It's a catch 22 situation.

Instead of bailing them out, why not BUY them out?

Boot the CEOs and other executives, make their positions electable, and put any profits back into the Federal coffers...

[LeeStreet]

does anyone know if they are going to keep two dollar trees open or close the one by pebbles and just have one by Kohl's. Also how many other people think opening more stores in this town is a waste of money? i mean so many things are closing and yet we open new store when we can't even keep the stuff open we already have?

Opening more stores has a positive effect on the local economy. Kohl's is a plus for Angola. With more stores, it makes a destination for consumers to travel to. When new stores open, they bring new marketing ideas, new jobs, new products, they donate to local charities,& schools. Let's not forget the many different taxes they will pay. I am heading to Angola today to spend some money & support the many stores there. I can't wait for my FREE stimulous check, so that I can spend it in Angola.

[mrs.bass46703]

good for you what about people with no money and no free stimulus check?

[mrs.bass46703]

Just a few points of order:

1. Kohl's is very, very good at doing market research. They rarely open stores that don't do well in the long run. There is a reason why they've done pretty well as a mid-level department store when almost all of the others have failed.

2. Haven't you lived in Steuben County for most if not almost all your life? You do realize that Steuben County gets a lot of shoppers from Lagrange, Williams (OH), Hillsdale (MI), and Branch (MI) counties, right?

i haven't lived here all my life but long enough to know that over 50% of angola's population is on foodstamps and medicaid according to my caseworker down in marion. She said thats why it takes so long to get reserted for stamps and medicaid. No one has money to buy things. new stores aren't gonna help people with no money

[HoosierHelen]

good for you what about people with no money and no free stimulus check?

Mrs Bass,

As I read your postings this evening a question keeps coming to me. In a perfect world, what do you see yourself doing that you would REALLY enjoy doing to earn a paycheck?

Do you enjoy working with children, working with flower gardens, perhaps helping at a library, or working with other needy people and helping them find the resources available to them? I really don't know you well enough to know what you enjoy? If you could choose something that you believe you could help your community with - what would you choose? What would be your perfect dream for yourself?

Helen

[mrs.bass46703]

here's the problem helen. I'm bi polar i can't get along with poeple and can't control myself in public. I get threapy and all that but nothing helps. I will never be able to work. But no one wants to here that. it's hard. i just hope my kids turn out better than me thats my dream

[HoosierHelen]

here's the problem helen. I'm bi polar i can't get along with poeple and can't control myself in public. I get threapy and all that but nothing helps. I will never be able to work. But no one wants to here that. it's hard. i just hope my kids turn out better than me thats my dream

That is a really good dream for your kids Mrs. Bass. I hope it will come true for them. Even though you have the bi-polar condition, I was wondering if you might have dreams for yourself in the future (if you have the medication that you need to maintain your disease)?

I have no personal knowledge of your disease, however, I have read that with medication, in some cases it can be controlled. I don't want to pry into your personal medical condition - but I know in my case, when I begin to feel powerless - I find strength in my dreams for myself. Does this work for you ever?

[mrs.bass46703]

I'm trying helen but i started this thread because i can't understand why we have a porbably over a million dollar starbucks sitting empty,a bunch of empty stores at the outlet mall and other places and were opening new stores when people who live right here in angola are going hunrgy and living on the streets? Yeah i know the lakers bring in lots of money but i think you should take care of your own community before the outsiders. just a thought

[matt_s]

Also how many other people think opening more stores in this town is a waste of money? i mean so many things are closing and yet we open new store when we can't even keep the stuff open we already have?


but i started this thread because i can't understand why we have a porbably over a million dollar starbucks sitting empty,a bunch of empty stores at the outlet mall and other places and were opening new stores when people who live right here in angola are going hunrgy and living on the streets? Yeah i know the lakers bring in lots of money but i think you should take care of your own community before the outsiders. just a thought

So you want people to help, but not by opening stores that can potentially provide jobs to pay people and keep them off the streets.

Are you basically wanting business owners to simply hand over their money? I mean that's a nice short term fix (for some), but doesn't address long term issues. A successful business can employ people for a long time.

[mrs.bass46703]

So you want people to help, but not by opening stores that can potentially provide jobs to pay people and keep them off the streets.

Are you basically wanting business owners to simply hand over their money? I mean that's a nice short term fix (for some), but doesn't address long term issues. A successful business can employ people for a long time.

how will that help what if people can't work are we just left to be 2nd class citizens not worthy of anything?

[matt_s]

how will that help what if people can't work are we just left to be 2nd class citizens not worthy of anything?
It won't.

I'd like to think that people who "can't work" should fall under a special category of people who are eligible for assistance. I'm not saying that this is happening or that they are receiving enough assistance. That's a whole other discussion

While I think they should be accounted for and provided for, they aren't the only people that are out there. There are plenty of people (more I'd wager) who can work that are out of work and in need money and I don't believe that they deserve to be forgotten or overlooked either.

Paying jobs help everybody. Not just those that are employed. They pay the taxes that are used to support those who can't.

[mrs.bass46703]

okay you got me there but still starbucks was a big waste. hopefully your right cause if not i'm sinking

[HoosierHelen]

okay you got me there but still starbucks was a big waste. hopefully your right cause if not i'm sinking

MrsB...I realize you are living in your own environment and expressing your needs.

Please know -there is such a large problem ballooning among our working class people - these are people who are healthy, willing, able to work and they are being released from their jobs due to the economy and no work in their work places to be done...

I am 60 yrs old, a professional skilled worker, with 30+ yrs experience in my trade. I have been without work for 6 months due to a lay off. I visited my local Auburn Unemployment Center to update my records last week and it was standing room only in there. Young and old were leaning against the walls waiting for their names to be called by the clerks behind the counter.

Most had arrived between 7:30 - 8:30 am. It was 3:30 in the afternoon and they still had not been called for their 5 minutes of time before an overworked clerk who could enter the magic codes that would MAYBE correct the errors in the computer system that has held their checks up in the system for up to 6-8 weeks.

I heard stories of utilities being disconnected, no money for groceries or gas in their cars to come back to the unemployment center tomorrow if they don't get served before closing time (4:30). It broke my heart.

The needy in our communities are not ONLY the disabled anymore. Those who are able are not finding employment. Today I heard Home Depot is laying off 7000 employees nationwide.

These are hard times for EVERYONE.

I do have good news on my personal front...I have been fortunate to negotiate a contract locally for 12 months employment for myself. I return to work on Feb 9. I am SO VERY THANKFULL!!

I had thought I had retired early and not voluntarily. I am so VERY thankful for this job contract.

[denali]

MrsB...I realize you are living in your own environment and expressing your needs.

Please know -there is such a large problem ballooning among our working class people - these are people who are healthy, willing, able to work and they are being released from their jobs due to the economy and no work in their work places to be done...

I am 60 yrs old, a professional skilled worker, with 30+ yrs experience in my trade. I have been without work for 6 months due to a lay off. I visited my local Auburn Unemployment Center to update my records last week and it was standing room only in there. Young and old were leaning against the walls waiting for their names to be called by the clerks behind the counter.

Most had arrived between 7:30 - 8:30 am. It was 3:30 in the afternoon and they still had not been called for their 5 minutes of time before an overworked clerk who could enter the magic codes that would MAYBE correct the errors in the computer system that has held their checks up in the system for up to 6-8 weeks.

I heard stories of utilities being disconnected, no money for groceries or gas in their cars to come back to the unemployment center tomorrow if they don't get served before closing time (4:30). It broke my heart.

The needy in our communities are not ONLY the disabled anymore. Those who are able are not finding employment. Today I heard Home Depot is laying off 7000 employees nationwide.

These are hard times for EVERYONE.

I do have good news on my personal front...I have been fortunate to negotiate a contract locally for 12 months employment for myself. I return to work on Feb 9. I am SO VERY THANKFULL!!

I had thought I had retired early and not voluntarily. I am so VERY thankful for this job contract.

HoosierHelen, Congrats to you. I hope that this does not stifle your participation on the Fence Post.

[HoosierHelen]

HoosierHelen, Congrats to you. I hope that this does not stifle your participation on the Fence Post.

Thanks Denali, I have grown to enjoy this forum so very much...I probably can't participate as much in the future as I have been, but I know I've adopted my neighbors at the FencePost. :-) I'll always stay in touch.

And..I still have time between now and Feb 9th. LOL!

[mrs.bass46703]

MrsB...I realize you are living in your own environment and expressing your needs.

Please know -there is such a large problem ballooning among our working class people - these are people who are healthy, willing, able to work and they are being released from their jobs due to the economy and no work in their work places to be done...

I am 60 yrs old, a professional skilled worker, with 30+ yrs experience in my trade. I have been without work for 6 months due to a lay off. I visited my local Auburn Unemployment Center to update my records last week and it was standing room only in there. Young and old were leaning against the walls waiting for their names to be called by the clerks behind the counter.

Most had arrived between 7:30 - 8:30 am. It was 3:30 in the afternoon and they still had not been called for their 5 minutes of time before an overworked clerk who could enter the magic codes that would MAYBE correct the errors in the computer system that has held their checks up in the system for up to 6-8 weeks.

I heard stories of utilities being disconnected, no money for groceries or gas in their cars to come back to the unemployment center tomorrow if they don't get served before closing time (4:30). It broke my heart.

The needy in our communities are not ONLY the disabled anymore. Those who are able are not finding employment. Today I heard Home Depot is laying off 7000 employees nationwide.

These are hard times for EVERYONE.

I do have good news on my personal front...I have been fortunate to negotiate a contract locally for 12 months employment for myself. I return to work on Feb 9. I am SO VERY THANKFULL!!

I had thought I had retired early and not voluntarily. I am so VERY thankful for this job contract.

thats my whole point jobs are not lasting these days opening more stores and hiring people just to turn around and lay them off makes no sense. Starbucks employed a sigle mom one of my friends knew she really liked working there then they closed so much money spent on that buliding and all for nothing. Don't tell me the same thing can't happen with kohls ,maneards, ect. It happened to home depot,kb toys shall i go on

[pixiegirl]

I think Kohls is great, when they run their sales, I can get jeans for our boys cheaper than at Wal-mart and for a better brand.
I don't think Khols will be in any danger, they are the only decent place to buy clothes in this town. Peebles is just terrible, so they may be in trouble.

[ebbieday]

...they are the only decent place to buy clothes in this town. Peebles is just terrible, so they may be in trouble.

They opened a Peebles here in November. I stopped in before Christmas to find a holiday outfit for hubby's company party...they had nothing appropriate! I walked out snickering...it won't last.

I love Kohls too!!

[mrs.bass46703]

kohls is a nice store, by the way guys i did apply there before they opened but they whould not hire me because my" illness" makes me a liabilty.

[pixiegirl]

kohls is a nice store, by the way guys i did apply there before they opened but they whould not hire me because my" illness" makes me a liabilty.

FYI - State law does NOT require you to tell your employer that you have an illness. Including Mental Illness.
Hippa Laws prohibit it.
So next time keep your mouth shut

[mrs.bass46703]

FYI - State law does NOT require you to tell your employer that you have an illness. Including Mental Illness.
Hippa Laws prohibit it.
So next time keep your mouth shut

thanks i didnot know that

[bigbass]

So next time keep your mouth shut

Nice response, subtle, yet to the point.

[mrs.bass46703]

One question if ss and my shrink {thats sounds funny!}says my illness chould endanger the public{violent outburst,threats,ect. can i still not tell a potiental employer?

[TheBigB]

My Daughter works at Peebles and they do pretty good. Not every store can have every item to please everyone. They have alot of sales. I bought alot of Christmas presents at Peebles of stuff that was on sale.
I'm a larger guy and they don't have alot of larger sizes, but not every store does so I just go to another store, no big deal. I think Angola has a pretty good selection of stores to choose from. In fact I remember back to 1980 when I first moved to Angola and there was hardly any big stores in town.

Peebles is more of a variety, odds and ends store, isn't it? It's really more oriented for browsing around, not for going with a specific need.

[mrs.bass46703]

FYI - State law does NOT require you to tell your employer that you have an illness. Including Mental Illness.
Hippa Laws prohibit it.
So next time keep your mouth shut

can you answer question on post #33?

[kingster]

They have parapolegic people in wheelchairs for greeters at Walmart. I have many friends who are bi-polar that lead productive lives while on their medication.I have seen problems when they did not stick with it but when they did they got by fine.You would not know unless you were close. I'm no expert but I don't think they can discriminate,unless you start whining like you do here!(If you really want a job)

[mrs.bass46703]

They have parapolegic people in wheelchairs for greaters at Walmart. I have many friends who are bi-polar that lead productive lives while on their medication.I have seen problems when they did not stick with it but when they did they got by fine.You would not know unless you were close. I'm no expert but I don't think they can discriminate,unless you start whining like you do here!(If you really want a job)

i've tried but on my meds i'm like drunk so i don't see it working. i'm not gonna lie to an employer and put fellow employees at risk thats just not right

[pixiegirl]

i've tried but on my meds i'm like drunk so i don't see it working. i'm not gonna lie to an employer and put fellow employees at risk thats just not right

Sounds to me like you don't have the right combination of meds. My mom was diagnosed as bipolar 20 years ago ( before the improvements with meds) and she raised 5 great kids, held the same job for 20 years and is still with the same company. She is a wonderful, caring, loving woman ( on her meds ) off them she is a demon. However, she never used her illness as an excuse to cop out of life, and let others take care of her. NEVER did she use the words "IM SICK, I CAN'T" those words are NOT in her vocabulary! My advice to you is that you forget them also and then your life and the lives of others would improve greatly.

[mrs.bass46703]

Sounds to me like you don't have the right combination of meds. My mom was diagnosed as bipolar 20 years ago ( before the improvements with meds) and she raised 5 great kids, held the same job for 20 years and is still with the same company. She is a wonderful, caring, loving woman ( on her meds ) off them she is a demon. However, she never used her illness as an excuse to cop out of life, and let others take care of her. NEVER did she use the words "IM SICK, I CAN'T" those words are NOT in her vocabulary! My advice to you is that you forget them also and then your life and the lives of others would improve greatly.

sounds easy but its not. I've gone to rise for testing and everytime they say i'm too socailly intolerable to fuction in any work setting. I'm mean on or off my meds they say it's my personality thats the problem meds don't change that. I've tried to work partime before and everytime i went off on someone nearly got aressted. It was a bad scence i just wish some had the answer. I go to church pray everything nothing works. Its very furstrating. I don't call have 6 different mental problems an excuse i just haven't got the right help. When your medicaid you don't get very good care. If i had private insurance i whould probably be lots better by now But thats a whole nother story. Thanks anyway

[pixiegirl]

sounds easy but its not. I've gone to rise for testing and everytime they say i'm too socailly intolerable to fuction in any work setting. I'm mean on or off my meds they say it's my personality thats the problem meds don't change that. I've tried to work partime before and everytime i went off on someone nearly got aressted. It was a bad scence i just wish some had the answer. I go to church pray everything nothing works. Its very furstrating. I don't call have 6 different mental problems an excuse i just haven't got the right help. When your medicaid you don't get very good care. If i had private insurance i whould probably be lots better by now But thats a whole nother story. Thanks anyway

So if they are telling you that "that is your personality" what they are really saying is "hey there is nothing wrong, your just a B****" If this is the case, then that is something that is in your control.

[pixiegirl]

Not trying to take sides here but I know of two people who have Bi-Polar and neither one works or has held a job in the last ten years, and ya it irritates me that they sponge off of other people.

To look at them or talk to them one- on- one, they act normal, but put them around a group of people and they become different people altogether. And they are both on medicine.

I realize that some think I may be harsh, but too many people want to make excuses for their dissabilities.
My mom is bipolar and leads a VERY normal productive life. My oldest son has a severe learning dissability. I do not allow him to use this as a crutch. I tell him that it's ok to have a dissability, but that does not mean you can give up and not try. I also tell him to use his disadvantages as advantages. For example: his biggest problem is reading, but now he helps younger readers who have problems by showing them some of the techniques that help him. ( who knows maybe he'll be a teacher! )
This is why I get so aggervated when people just seem to shrug their shoulders and say " oh well, I have a problem, so I don't have to try"

[mrs.bass46703]

yeah pixie you are a little harsh but whould you tell a lady in a wheel chair that she is a b.. i'm just as disabled as she. Mental illness is too often misunderstood. I wish people whould not name call and bash but instead offer some helpful comments. All bashing and name calling does is push us further from recovery and life

[pixiegirl]

yeah pixie you are a little harsh but whould you tell a lady in a wheel chair that she is a b.. i'm just as disabled as she. Mental illness is too often misunderstood. I wish people whould not name call and bash but instead offer some helpful comments. All bashing and name calling does is push us further from recovery and life

Go back and read what I wrote, I did not call you a b** i was suggesting that is what they ( your docs ) were saying. And that if it were the case then you ARE in control
And yes if a woman in a wheelchair was being a B I would tell her.
Read my last post, I won't tolerate people who use their dissabilities as an excuse to be rude, lazy, or anything else that would not be tolerated by someone without dissabilities.

[debbiesanders]

Mental illness is too often misunderstood. I wish people whould not name call and bash but instead offer some helpful comments. All bashing and name calling does is push us further from recovery and life


Mrs. bass you are so very right with these words. To often mental illness is misunderstood and name calling and bashing helps no one.
I do give you credit for trying to work in the past even after being told that you would not be able to....at least you tried.

It does sound to me like what is going on here is that you have bipolar and also a personalilty disorder at the same time. If this is truly the case unlike was posted earlier this is NOT something that you can control or change but is another disorder just as the bipolar is a disorder. Often times people with such things as bipolar disorder have what is referred to as co-morbid disorders. This in short means that one disorder opens you up to a host of others.(this is not always the case but often times is)

I do have to agree that many times people with such disorders are able to find the right or correct combination of medications that will work for them and yes they are able to lead "normal" lives and are very happy. HOWEVER... just as many or more times people can not find or get the right medications that will work for them and in the end there is no more that can be done and it is true that sometimes for the sake of safety some of these people are best off staying away from the public in general to some degree.

I think the main thing here for everyone to understand is each disorder affects each person differently. Where some people with a disorder act one way another person with the same disorder may act the opposite way.
Just like one medication may be the perfect cure for one person does NOT mean that it will even begin to help the next person. It all depends on each person's body and how their body handles the medication.

[mrs.bass46703]

thanks deb that was what i was trying to say. by the way i still think starbucks was a waste of money

[denali]

thanks deb that was what i was trying to say. by the way i still think starbucks was a waste of money

mrs.bass46703,
I don't think that Starbuck's will dispute that. Starbuck's is closing a bunch more stores and laying off more workers. The real travesty, in my mind, is that Starbuck's cut down a 100 year old tree so they could put their dumpster there.

Now go figure, McDonald's is installing over 2,000 McCafe's in their locations, I guess to cater to the Starbuck's clientele.

I, for one, miss Starbuck's in Angola.

[debbiesanders]

thanks deb that was what i was trying to say. by the way i still think starbucks was a waste of money

You are very welcome Mrs. Bass. That is the thing with people most don't understand what it is to live with personally or have family members with mental illnesses. They don't know and don't research it before they start the name calling and bashing. If they would only take the time to research it or talk to someone who actually lives with it on a daily basis I don't think most of them would have the same feelings about the mentally ill as they do now.

[LeeStreet]

Opening more stores has a positive effect on the local economy. Kohl's is a plus for Angola. With more stores, it makes a destination for consumers to travel to. When new stores open, they bring new marketing ideas, new jobs, new products, they donate to local charities,& schools. Let's not forget the many different taxes they will pay. I am heading to Angola today to spend some money & support the many stores there. I can't wait for my FREE stimulous check, so that I can spend it in Angola.

Just an update on our trip to Angola. We found some bargains @ Peebles & Kohl's. I also shopped @ Walgreens & bought some gas @ Meijer. So the trip provided income for some Angola retailers, & hopefully they can keep providing employment. Also, the comment about the FREE STIMULUS check, that was a joke. Nothing is free, especially from the government.

[HoosierHelen]

mrs.bass46703,
I don't think that Starbuck's will dispute that. Starbuck's is closing a bunch more stores and laying off more workers. The real travesty, in my mind, is that Starbuck's cut down a 100 year old tree so they could put their dumpster there.

Now go figure, McDonald's is installing over 2,000 McCafe's in their locations, I guess to cater to the Starbuck's clientele.

I, for one, miss Starbuck's in Angola.

I have heard that McDonalds has come out with some new coffee drinks that are similar in quality to Starbucks and at a much cheaper price. I haven't been to a McDonalds yet to check that out, but I plan on doing so.

[TheBigB]

I have heard that McDonalds has come out with some new coffee drinks that are similar in quality to Starbucks and at a much cheaper price. I haven't been to a McDonalds yet to check that out, but I plan on doing so.

They are similar in style, but the quality - depends on who is making the drink, and I doubt the beans they are using are quite the same style. It looks like McDonalds will be able to find a lot of available baristas, though.

It will be interesting to see how they do. I suspect that McDonald's wanted to tap into the "soccer mom on the go" market - people aren't going to go to Mickey D's for a coffee house experience. Even so, the same reasons Starbucks are in trouble will apply to McDonalds - getting a $3 foofoo late in the middle of the day is a luxury, and people are treating themselves a lot less often these days.

[mrs.bass46703]

Just an update on our trip to Angola. We found some bargains @ Peebles & Kohl's. I also shopped @ Walgreens & bought some gas @ Meijer. So the trip provided income for some Angola retailers, & hopefully they can keep providing employment. Also, the comment about the FREE STIMULUS check, that was a joke. Nothing is free, especially from the government.

A joke oh boy ifeel like a dummy. I thought you were serious thats why i bit back so hard.

[kingster]

I've heard of tax credits but no checks so don't go counting your money yet!

[mrs.bass46703]

Yeah i saw it last night on msn. They took the part about socail security recipents getting a bonus check and stimlus checks out of it. All it offers now is tax cuts and a little more money each week for those on unemployment. As i said in another thread the poor man is always left out.{The poor unmploymed person on ssd just to be clear}

[burgundystar77]

I think this new dollar tree is much better; I got quite a few really cool things for my son, for Valentine's Day, and this really nice bag/purse that's really going to come in handy for my trips to the library, this summer! They have soo much more now than the old one!

[denali]

I think this new dollar tree is much better; I got quite a few really cool things for my son, for Valentine's Day, and this really nice bag/purse that's really going to come in handy for my trips to the library, this summer! They have soo much more now than the old one!

Thanks for the review, I had forgotten about the store being open. I am sure that their space is much larger now.

[HoosierHelen]

We all need those good bargins where ever we can find them! I need a different purse...I'll check it out!

[mrs.bass46703]

the new dollar store is not bad and they take food stamps wow! But kohls i think is still a big waste. During the week the store is empty. Only people on the weekends. Still think its a waste.

[pixiegirl]

the new dollar store is not bad and they take food stamps wow! But kohls i think is still a big waste. During the week the store is empty. Only people on the weekends. Still think its a waste.

I have been in there ( kohls) through the week (in the evenings) and on weekends and found them pretty busy.

[TheBigB]

I have been in there ( kohls) through the week (in the evenings) and on weekends and found them pretty busy.

For a long, long time, Angola had a Jacque Penneys. It seems to me that Kohl's (in a grander fashion) is serving that function, so I don't see why it is a big stretch. It seems that MrsBass's mind is made up in this matter, though, so we might as well give up. :)

[mrs.bass46703]

For a long, long time, Angola had a Jacque Penneys. It seems to me that Kohl's (in a grander fashion) is serving that function, so I don't see why it is a big stretch. It seems that MrsBass's mind is made up in this matter, though, so we might as well give up. :)

yep unless they are giving stuff away i'm not impressed. Half this city is on welfare no one can afford those stores like kohls.

[james_t]

yep unless they are giving stuff away i'm not impressed. Half this city is on welfare no one can afford those stores like kohls.

If it's like the Kohl's stores we had back in Illinois, you can generally find some good deals on the clearance racks.

[pixiegirl]

yep unless they are giving stuff away i'm not impressed. Half this city is on welfare no one can afford those stores like kohls.

First, I would not go as far as to say that half the city is on welfare.
Secondly, I think that if they were giving away free stuff you would be first in line.
Third, why begrudge those of us who can afford to shop at a good store, because you can't.
Fourth, I can get my kids jeans cheaper ( when on sale ) then I can at Wal- mart and I work in an office, its nice to have someplace close where I can find the type of clothes I need to look stylish and professional.

[kingster]

I don't shop there much but my brother watches their sales and saves alot of money there.He says he really likes it.

[mrs.bass46703]

First, I would not go as far as to say that half the city is on welfare.
Secondly, I think that if they were giving away free stuff you would be first in line.
Third, why begrudge those of us who can afford to shop at a good store, because you can't.
Fourth, I can get my kids jeans cheaper ( when on sale ) then I can at Wal- mart and I work in an office, its nice to have someplace close where I can find the type of clothes I need to look stylish and professional.

actually according to the caseworker i spoke to in marion the reason it take so long to get recertied for welfare is because so many are on it. She said 52% of stuben county residents recieve some type of assitance from them . You do the math

[ebbieday]

I know there are plenty of work from home opportunities...one of my boss's wife works online and makes $35/hr. It takes time and a lot of computer usage, but it seems you have plenty of both anyway so why not look into it? Your jealousy and disgust for those who are willing to work for what they need and want is really wearing thin. If you want change in your life then for God's sake take the steps to MAKE it happen. Do what you've always done and you will continue to get what you've always gotten!!!

[mrs.bass46703]

I know there are plenty of work from home opportunities...one of my boss's wife works online and makes $35/hr. It takes time and a lot of computer usage, but it seems you have plenty of both anyway so why not look into it? Your jealousy and disgust for those who are willing to work for what they need and want is really wearing thin. If you want change in your life then for God's sake take the steps to MAKE it happen. Do what you've always done and you will continue to get what you've always gotten!!!

sorry that poor people bore you so much. You guys bashing poor people is getting old too. I would love to see one of you guys walk up to a person on the street in a wheel chair and tell them to get out of the chair and go to work! You are basicly saying the same thing to me!I tired to sign up for one of those work online things. They wanted a credit card 3 and other things i don't have access to.

[ebbieday]

...I would love to see one of you guys walk up to a person on the street in a wheel chair and tell them to get out of the chair and go to work! You are basicly saying the same thing to me!I tired to sign up for one of those work online things. They wanted a credit card 3 and other things i don't have access to.

Mrs Bass, first, I would never tell anyone in a wheel chair to get up and go to work. I wouldn't have to...it's each persons choice to, or not to. When I went to CMT school in 2001, there was a woman who worked the desk there...in a wheel chair...she has Cerebral Palsy. She could not walk, she could not drive, she took public transportation to and from work, as did her husband, who also had CP. I have absolutely nothing against poor people, as I've BEEN one. I was not born into money, I had my first son at 16, married my husband at 17, who also was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth...in fact, very far from it. We did not have anything in the beginning...everything we had was either given to us by family or bought for us as gifts. We didn't even have a new bed until we had been married for over ten years. We bought used mattresses at Goodwill or yard sales. Yeah, pretty gross, but there wasn't a choice. The first 4 years my husband was in the Marine Corps and if you know anything about the military you know that the pay is poverty level or below, depending on rank. Once out of the military it took my husband over a year to find gainful employment...he worked a couple of part time jobs and we lived with his Mother, which was not by choice, but we couldn't afford a place of our own for a year. Once he finally found that job in 1991, we have slowly improved our financial state since. I went back to work 3 1/2 yrs ago since our sons are getting older and not as dependent on Mom. If your goals are to improve your lifestyle and not have to depend on the gvt, food banks or the generosity of others and you are willing to do ANYTHING to make that happen, it will happen.

What I don't think you understand is how you come off as you can't/won't work a job to help your situatiion and then have the gimme attitude and continue to whine that everyone is picking on you or "bashing the poor". Hardly the truth.

Now, I am done talking about poor Mrs Bass.

[mrs.bass46703]

good for you i hope someday you get yours thats call i have to say

[ebbieday]

good for you i hope someday you get yours thats call i have to say


Would you like to elaborate on that since it makes absolutely no sense at all? What do you hope I "get"?

[mrs.bass46703]

Would you like to elaborate on that since it makes absolutely no sense at all? What do you hope I "get"?

whatever it is that comes to people who are creul to others you figure it out!

[ebbieday]

whatever it is that comes to people who are creul to others you figure it out!

You are confusing cruel with honest. Truth hurts a lot of the time.

[mrs.bass46703]

You are confusing cruel with honest. Truth hurts a lot of the time.

you are wrongabout me but i don't have the mentality to argue i have enough emotional problems without fighting with people about my capabilty to work. No one will never understand

[ebbieday]

you are wrongabout me but i don't have the mentality to argue i have enough emotional problems without fighting with people about my capabilty to work. No one will never understand

And I'm done trying...it's a moot point and lost cause now.

[mrs.bass46703]

well james won't let me defend myself on here so all i have to say is i hope one day all of you find yourself in my shoes maybe then you'll stop throwing stones!

[darkangel7878]

I don't think its a matter of throwing stones. Its really being honest. You have posted on numerous threads and I think that we all know about your situation thru your posts. That being said, it is not our fault that you are the way you are. You have basically blamed us(the working class) for your disability.

I have a good friend that is bi polar--- and yes there are days when the meds don't work and she is an awful person to be around. But then she holds a normal job. I am not comparing you to her, but I am saying that just because you have mental health issues, does not make you a charity case.

I am sure that you are going to be stewing over something to say back, and thats fine, I am just getting my thoughts across since afterall this is a public forum.

[mrs.bass46703]

okay but like you said i'm not her. i'm me and i know what i can and cannot do....

[darkangel7878]

All that we get from you is the "I can't" attitude. And with an attitude like that no wonder you can't.

Back to topic already,

Its better to see some business come into town than another one move out. It give a bit of hope that things will get better. With so many companies closing or moving, anything is better than nothing. I personally know its very hard to find a job right now, regaurdless of what kind of experience you have.

I like the idea of having Kohls in Angola. It saves me a trip to Fort Wayne. And yes they do run some great sales.

[pixiegirl]

good for you i hope someday you get yours thats call i have to say

I would say that ebbie, and I both "got" ours.
We got what was coming to us, loving families, homes of our own, and we can pay our bills, AND shop at Kohls if we want to.
We work hard, paid our dues, and now we can enjoy life.
EVERYONE gets what they deserve.

[burgundystar77]

good for you i hope someday you get yours thats call i have to say

I'm sorry to say this, but, I'm starting to see where they're coming from; this thread started out as talking about the new dollar tree, and you do......, no matter what thread you get into, you automatically start in that everyone's bashing you and all about your problems, you manage to turn every thread into all about you (and us poor people). Frankly, I don't dare talk about my welfare; I'm embarrassed, I don't like living off of welfare, myself, I feel like a bum...and I am trying, whether through mail or my webtv, to get an at-home job (I can be home for my son, 24/7 and work at my own pace, that sounds soo good)-I'm still looking though, but I'm looking.

As I've said, I love this new dollar tree:) And the prices are great; for the poor or for those who do have all that money but go about spending it wisely, so stores like this are great for everyone!!!

[mrs.bass46703]

I'm sorry to say this, but, I'm starting to see where they're coming from; this thread started out as talking about the new dollar tree, and you do......, no matter what thread you get into, you automatically start in that everyone's bashing you and all about your problems, you manage to turn every thread into all about you (and us poor people). Frankly, I don't dare talk about my welfare; I'm embarrassed, I don't like living off of welfare, myself, I feel like a bum...and I am trying, whether through mail or my webtv, to get an at-home job (I can be home for my son, 24/7 and work at my own pace, that sounds soo good)-I'm still looking though, but I'm looking.

As I've said, I love this new dollar tree:) And the prices are great; for the poor or for those who do have all that money but go about spending it wisely, so stores like this are great for everyone!!!

of all the people i thought whould not turn on me! I'm not embarssed abotu my welfare or disabilty and you should not be either!. I was not going to say this but now i will. I went into kohls the other day in my project help clothes and was in there 32 minutes. No one greeted me. They did not even ask me if i needed help. Meanwhile a lady walks in wearing a fancy jogging outfit and gucci sunglasses. they followed her around like they were lost puppy dogs.something is wrong with that picture,don't you think. This has happened to me at other venues here in town as well. If kohls does business like that they are looking for trobule. Espically if i go more public with this story than just on here. { by the way i called the store when i got home. I asked to speak with a manager he just blew me off}

[ebbieday]

of all the people i thought whould not turn on me! I'm not embarssed abotu my welfare or disabilty and you should not be either!. I was not going to say this but now i will. I went into kohls the other day in my project help clothes and was in there 32 minutes. No one greeted me. They did not even ask me if i needed help. Meanwhile a lady walks in wearing a fancy jogging outfit and gucci sunglasses. they followed her around like they were lost puppy dogs.something is wrong with that picture,don't you think. This has happened to me at other venues here in town as well. If kohls does business like that they are looking for trobule. Espically if i go more public with this story than just on here. { by the way i called the store when i got home. I asked to speak with a manager he just blew me off}

I dress average (jeans, tennies and casual shirts) and I have NEVER had anyone at Kohls ever ask me if I needed anything. They don't have door greeters like WM and you're lucky if anyone there says anything to you. I could care less about that...I'm there to shop and I know where everything is anyway. It's a different world now and you really can't take that kind of thing personally.

[TheBigB]

I dress average (jeans, tennies and casual shirts) and I have NEVER had anyone at Kohls ever ask me if I needed anything. They don't have door greeters like WM and you're lucky if anyone there says anything to you. I could care less about that...I'm there to shop and I know where everything is anyway. It's a different world now and you really can't take that kind of thing personally.

I was in their with my (at the time) 2-year old daughter, and I noticed that almost all the employees moved to the other side of the store. I don't blame them - in fact, I probably envied them in a small way.

[mrs.bass46703]

I dress average (jeans, tennies and casual shirts) and I have NEVER had anyone at Kohls ever ask me if I needed anything. They don't have door greeters like WM and you're lucky if anyone there says anything to you. I could care less about that...I'm there to shop and I know where everything is anyway. It's a different world now and you really can't take that kind of thing personally.

well i do take it personal. But thats alright i guess everyone is different. I did email the fw news they said the same thing you did you can't take things personal its a dog eat dog world!

[nathandiehl]

well i do take it personal. But thats alright i guess everyone is different. I did email the fw news they said the same thing you did you can't take things personal its a dog eat dog world!

A couple months ago I went to Kohls in Angola. I was in there about 20 minutes. No one greeted me. No one said hello. No one asked if they could help me. I didn't really feel welcome, either.

Maybe they discriminated against me because I was dressed nicely?
Maybe they discriminated against me because I am so beautiful that I intimated all the ladies working there. (not likely)
Maybe it was because I was with my wife.
Maybe because my wife is so beautiful.
Maybe it was because my wife was dressed so nicely.

Or maybe, just maybe, Kohl's customer service just blows and our experience doesn't mean we got discriminated against, it just means Kohl's has really crappy customer service.

[pixiegirl]

well i do take it personal. But thats alright i guess everyone is different. I did email the fw news they said the same thing you did you can't take things personal its a dog eat dog world!

So.... your actually complaining because you got treated like everyone else?
I am a little confused.
You were offended because no one offered to help you and when it was pointed out that no one is ever offered help, you still complain. You are always saying you want to be treated like everyone else and when you are you still b**** I think it's more an issue of being center of attention all the time.

[darkangel7878]

Having worked retail for 15 years, I can say that not all people want to be greeted. But they do want help finding things. So what you didn't get greeted or they didn't follow you around waiting on you hand and foot. Get over it. Would you rather them follow you around thinking that you were stealing stuff? I get followed around in walmart all the time--- for gods sake I worked there for 10 years.

Every place has different standards--just because it didn't meat yours doesn't make it a bad place to shop.

[HoosierHelen]

I'm actually different in not wanting a store employee bugging me while I'm shopping around. Just leave me alone and if I need help I'll go and look for a store worker. Most of the time I know what I'm there to buy and have already researched the product on the internet. I will walk around the store and look for new products that have came out. I'm always building things with my wire and stick welder so I'm always looking for idea's and new products to help me build things.

I don't need to be greeted, just respected.

I rarely (if ever) look for wire and stick welders, however, when I visit a store, I enjoy my independent shopping until I'm stuck and can't find what I need. When that occurs, I'll find a clerk for directions. That is my preferred style of shopping.

Guess that means I'm a Hoosier..huh? LOL!

[kingster]

Racefan I can relate. I can walk around home improvement stores for hours with no goal.I see new tools and products I can use for future projects and even develope new projects.They look at me too sometimes after they pass me 2 or 3 times.Sometimes I don't even by much but my brain is full of plans.

[evilkumquat]

Shopping at Menard's yesterday, I had the opposite experience.

The place is so huge and I was completely out of my element (I either buy everything online or let my wife pick stuff up at Walmart) and I wandered around for about ten minutes before I found a floor clerk to point me in the right direction.

At Walmart, you can almost always find a clerk when you need it.

Oh sorry... "Associate"...

****ing corporate *******s...

[kingster]

I just like gadgets.I like to wonder and look for them. I'm a habitual fixer!

[Night Owl]

Having worked retail for 15 years, I can say that not all people want to be greeted. But they do want help finding things.

I don't need a fake "welcome to big box," however I do find in many places that simple hospitality is lacking. A nod with a smile will work just fine.
I don't want 20 people asking if I need help, but I don't want to spend more than 2-3 minutes trying to find someone if I do need help either.

[burgundystar77]

of all the people i thought whould not turn on me! I'm not embarssed abotu my welfare or disabilty and you should not be either!. I was not going to say this but now i will. I went into kohls the other day in my project help clothes and was in there 32 minutes. No one greeted me. They did not even ask me if i needed help. Meanwhile a lady walks in wearing a fancy jogging outfit and gucci sunglasses. they followed her around like they were lost puppy dogs.something is wrong with that picture,don't you think. This has happened to me at other venues here in town as well. If kohls does business like that they are looking for trobule. Espically if i go more public with this story than just on here. { by the way i called the store when i got home. I asked to speak with a manager he just blew me off}

I'm not turning on you, but if you would just clear your head and go look at every thread you've been in, you'd see what I mean....you always think someone is against you in here, but we're not, we value your opinion as much as anyone else's; and like I've told you in private, I will now say public, some of these people love sarcasm, and you can't take it personally, that's just how they are-I love sarcasm and dish it right back....they don't mean anything personally, like you, they're also going by personal experiences of their own and are just trying to get you to see that you're not the only one (even those with more money, have problems they have to face, too). You just can't take it personally, that's all! About Kohls; I've never been in there, because I know I don't even have the money for it, but I have been in stores like it, in the past and have been "ignored" too, but I don't mind it (I like to look around on my own without some salesperson looking over my shoulder asking me if they can help)-if they have, I've simply said, "I'm just looking around" to which they walk away, and I'm cool with that. Again, that's nothing personal, either; they're not being rude, that's just the way they are. And about this being a dog eat dog world, you do gotta kind of harden your heart a little, you can't let people get to you like this and just walk all over you or it will drive you nuts....

[james_t]

At Walmart, you can almost always find a clerk when you need it.

That must be the Angola Wal-Mart. I usually have to hunt all over the store to find one when I need help at Kendallville.

[mymaria]

Sometimes you just can't win. People aren't happy if they're NOT welcomed or asked if they need help-and then if they are greeted and asked several times if they need help, they'll be mad and say, "well, I was there in my old clothes and they acted like I was going to shoplift." Customer service, for the most part, is lacking in many stores. I can go into Walmart, walk past five or six workers on the floor, and not one will smile or say hello. In Menards, I usually have clerks saying hello and asking if I need anything, but this doesn't happen every time. Meijer is hit or miss on the greetings by the workers in the aisles. At Kohls, sometimes I go on my lunch hour, so I'm dressed up, and I am treated absolutely NO differently than if I go in old jeans and a sweatshirt Saturday afternoon. The customer service is hit or miss-it's NOT personal. If you are looking for a slight, you can find it every time.

[mrs.bass46703]

Sometimes you just can't win. People aren't happy if they're NOT welcomed or asked if they need help-and then if they are greeted and asked several times if they need help, they'll be mad and say, "well, I was there in my old clothes and they acted like I was going to shoplift." Customer service, for the most part, is lacking in many stores. I can go into Walmart, walk past five or six workers on the floor, and not one will smile or say hello. In Menards, I usually have clerks saying hello and asking if I need anything, but this doesn't happen every time. Meijer is hit or miss on the greetings by the workers in the aisles. At Kohls, sometimes I go on my lunch hour, so I'm dressed up, and I am treated absolutely NO differently than if I go in old jeans and a sweatshirt Saturday afternoon. The customer service is hit or miss-it's NOT personal. If you are looking for a slight, you can find it every time.

Have you ever gone to the ER and been treated this way i have because my only insurance is medicaid. Explain that one away!

[ebbieday]

Have you ever gone to the ER and been treated this way i have because my only insurance is medicaid. Explain that one away!

Well it depends on your attitude when you go there. If it's the same as it is here, can you really blame them? You aren't the only patient who enters the ER on Medicaid, I can assure you that! However, if you're basically holding a sign that says, "I'm on welfare and medicaid and I expect to be treated like ******" then that's exactly what you will get. You teach people how to treat you...you get what you give.

[mrs.bass46703]

I didn't go in with an attitude ebbie i was having chest pains. They kept me one hour, barly said a word to me. When i take my kids in there{ they have piggy back coverage from my ex blue cross they are glothed over. Of course i'm not the only one going in there with medicaid. Some others who post on here are on it ,they whould tell you the same thing.

[Charles]

wow ladies....:hmmmm:

[Night Owl]

Have you ever gone to the ER and been treated this way i have because my only insurance is medicaid. Explain that one away!

Mrs. Bass, do you realize how fortunate you are to have insurance, even if it is medicaid?

Think of your glass as half full, not half empty! Try to see the positive side.

I lost insurance for my family over a year ago when my employer closed their doors, no COBRA continuation to purchase. To buy the insurance, over a $1,000 a month. Ain't gonna happen! A major medical emergency would very quickly send us into bankruptcy, and possibly lose our home.

Fortunately, everyone is in good health (keep your fingers crossed!)

Sometimes we just need to take a step back and take a good look around. That glass at a different angle, may be more FULL than originally thought! :ciao:

[ebbieday]

Mrs. Bass, do you realize how fortunate you are to have insurance, even if it is medicaid?

Think of your glass as half full, not half empty! Try to see the positive side.

I lost insurance for my family over a year ago when my employer closed their doors, no COBRA continuation to purchase. To buy the insurance, over a $1,000 a month. Ain't gonna happen! A major medical emergency would very quickly send us into bankruptcy, and possibly lose our home.

Fortunately, everyone is in good health (keep your fingers crossed!)

Sometimes we just need to take a step back and take a good look around. That glass at a different angle, may be more FULL than originally thought! :ciao:

Excellent point, Night Owl and you are so right. There are those who never see the glass half full in life. It's so sad, actually.

I really hope you are able to purchase affordable insurance again very soon.

[burgundystar77]

I didn't go in with an attitude ebbie i was having chest pains. They kept me one hour, barly said a word to me. When i take my kids in there{ they have piggy back coverage from my ex blue cross they are glothed over. Of course i'm not the only one going in there with medicaid. Some others who post on here are on it ,they whould tell you the same thing.

I am on medicaid also, and I'm sorry, but I can't tell them the same....again, it's nothing against you personally; they deliberately keep us in there for so long because they want to suck as much as they can, out of medicaid (government money, for them)....it is medicaid who should be angry (and tax payers-but not at us, of course). You get back in to the emergency room, real quick now, since they have that new sign in system, but then you wait a good 20 min. to a half hour before you see the doctor, another half hour to 45 min. before you get the "low down" and another half hour or so, before they even bring in the prescription (it's all for the money, it's not about you personally)...also, they don't say too much because they're probably exhausted, being that it is the emergency room we're talking about, and they probably just can't wait to get home and rest (I really think they overwork the nurses-Cameron). But yeah, I try to avoid Cameron, as much as possible.

[mrs.bass46703]

I am on medicaid also, and I'm sorry, but I can't tell them the same....again, it's nothing against you personally; they deliberately keep us in there for so long because they want to suck as much as they can, out of medicaid (government money, for them)....it is medicaid who should be angry (and tax payers-but not at us, of course). You get back in to the emergency room, real quick now, since they have that new sign in system, but then you wait a good 20 min. to a half hour before you see the doctor, another half hour to 45 min. before you get the "low down" and another half hour or so, before they even bring in the prescription (it's all for the money, it's not about you personally)...also, they don't say too much because they're probably exhausted, being that it is the emergency room we're talking about, and they probably just can't wait to get home and rest (I really think they overwork the nurses-Cameron). But yeah, I try to avoid Cameron, as much as possible.

wow i can't believe that. Anytime i go to cameron i'm never kept very long so i must just be the odd ball in town. But i guess when you have a big mouth like i do and go off on everyone you see no one wants to be around you. I can clear a place in a matter of minutes! Thats not a good thing though. I hope i can improve on that or i'll be getting ****** service evrywere for the rest of my life!