Police being nice to a little girl

[james_t]

Here's what I could pull up from the US Census site:

In the 2000 census, 116,756 were counted in Indiana as "native" (people born in the United States, Puerto Rico, or U.S. Island Areas; as well as those born in a foreign country who had at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen) Spanish speakers. 68,820 were counted as "foreign-born." The census was supposed to be a count of illegal immigrants as well as legal; how successful it was in doing that is a matter of debate.


http://www.census.gov/population/www...0/phc-t20.html
http://factfinder.census.gov/home/en...lossary_n.html

[LuciusBeebe]

In other words, the majority of spanish speaking hoosiers are Americans.

Thanks, James.

[dg46755]

In other words, the majority of spanish speaking hoosiers are Americans.

Thanks, James.

No, the majority of english speaking hoosiers are Americans.

[ebbieday]

Here's what I could pull up from the US Census site:

In the 2000 census, 116,756 were counted in Indiana as "native" (people born in the United States, Puerto Rico, or U.S. Island Areas; as well as those born in a foreign country who had at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen) Spanish speakers. 68,820 were counted as "foreign-born." The census was supposed to be a count of illegal immigrants as well as legal; how successful it was in doing that is a matter of debate.


http://www.census.gov/population/www...0/phc-t20.html
http://factfinder.census.gov/home/en...lossary_n.html

What the stats do not tell you is that the illegals hide from the census and the ones speaking for them tend to lie. That's a no-brainer.

[james_t]

What the stats do not tell you is that the illegals hide from the census and the ones speaking for them tend to lie. That's a no-brainer.

There was a lot of debate about this at the time the census was done, and as I recall the census department did build a certain amount of fudge factor into the numbers to take that sort of thing into account.

Regardless, those are the best numbers we have. Anything else is speculation.

[LuciusBeebe]

No, the majority of english speaking hoosiers are Americans.

Uh.... Yeah?

[dg46755]

fudge factor

Never did like fudge

[dg46755]

This is kind of a bad situation for a hearing person- to many cops are a little gun happy!

Deaf person gets nervous because cop has his hand on his gun. A person who can hear probably doesn't get nervous under the same circumstances.

[LuciusBeebe]

Deaf person gets nervous because cop has his hand on his gun. A person who can hear probably doesn't get nervous under the same circumstances.

What makes you say that?

[dg46755]

What makes you say that?

Guess I was being sarcastic.........Deaf people do not get arrested for non compliance (whatever that is) during a traffic stop. I believe even a policeman can figure out the person is deaf with little effort.

[james_t]

to many cops are a little gun happy!

I don't agree with that. The ones I know actually hate to have to pull them out at all.

Granted, all I've ever been pulled over on are minor traffic violations, but I've yet to have one go anywhere near a gun. Do they regularly pull one on people in your experience?

[dg46755]

I believe police officers should have to learn sign language and Spanish so they can sign to all the deaf hispanics that are in our area

[armyda]

To be a citizen, you must speak english. That doesn't mean that if you are not a citizen you do not speak english.

Lucius,

How many babies speak English? Or are you saying that a child born in this country shouldn't be considered a citizen until they can pass an english test?

[armyda]

I believe police officers should have to learn sign language and Spanish so they can sign to all the deaf hispanics that are in our area

What about French? We aren't all that far from Quebec here in Indiana.

[Hawk-64]

I don't want to name employers but i know of several rather unsafe factories in the area that only employee illegals... no reports to the state etc... I really don't want to say in open forum someone might be unemployed and start a hate campaign

http://www.ice.gov/about/contact.htm

Here ya go! If you have so much information about illegals and are afraid of talking about it on an open forum that may create lible, then do what a good citizen should do and report it to the proper people.

I am confused though... Are you making this statement to let everyone know that there are local employers that employ illegals or are you upset that the illegals are employed in poor conditions?

[Hawk-64]

Failure to identify yourself to an officer is an offense

No, REFUSAL to identify is an offense. BIG DIFFERENCE!

IC 34-28-5-3.5
Refusal to identify self
Sec. 3.5. A person who knowingly or intentionally refuses to provide either the person's:
(1) name, address, and date of birth; or
(2) driver's license, if in the person's possession;
to a law enforcement officer who has stopped the person for an infraction or ordinance violation commits a Class C misdemeanor.
As added by P.L.1-1998, SEC.24

[Night Fire]

No, the majority of english speaking hoosiers are Americans.

that is correct because the ones that are here legally for the most part speak English( a requirement for citizenship)

[Night Fire]

I don't agree with that. The ones I know actually hate to have to pull them out at all.

Granted, all I've ever been pulled over on are minor traffic violations, but I've yet to have one go anywhere near a gun. Do they regularly pull one on people in your experience?

How a bout a routine traffic stop in Hamilton
2 officers approach from either side of the vehicle with guns drawn- reason speeding, 3 miles over the limit.

[Night Fire]

I believe police officers should have to learn sign language and Spanish so they can sign to all the deaf hispanics that are in our area

Spanish sign language is different from ASL

[Night Fire]

Lucius,

How many babies speak English? Or are you saying that a child born in this country shouldn't be considered a citizen until they can pass an english test?

LB again is trying to twist the discussion to something it is not-
the original comment was that most spanish speaking people are illegal

If they speak english they are not even part of the question