Soap on a Rope for Rove?

[HomeyG]

The Taliban are experience a resurgence, Saddam was never a threat, Afghanistan is in the middle of a tug-o-war between tribal warlords, Iraq is overrun by insurgents and suicide bombers, the tone of the White House has been changed to one of arrogance and contempt for the Constitution, ushered in the most reviled presidency with the lowest approval ratings in modern history, allowed Cheney to write the energy laws with industry insiders that helped cause the California crisis, the cost of gas is the highest in our nation's history, commuted the prison sentence of a traitor who outed a covert CIA operative... but you get the picture.

Evil, You need to get off the George Soros Kool-Aid. If you don't think Saddam was a threat ask the Kurds or the country of Kuwait. Ask our pilots who were being shot at in the "no fly" zone. Whether you want to admit it or not the surge in Iraq is working. It is no longer overrun by insurgents and suicide bombings are down. At the height of the Iraq war there were 207 reporters embedded with the military. To date they are down to 58 reporters. Why? Because there's no longer any sensational tabloid news to report. You are also wrong about Bush having the lowest approval rating. President Truman had the lowest at 23%. Bush 41 was 29%, Carter 28% and Nixon 24%. What traitor did he commute the prison sentence? If you're referring to Libby you got it wrong. The CIA operative was outed by the Assistant Secretary of State Armitage. What's wrong with talking to the industry insiders if they're the experts on energy. If you have a medical problem do you go see a plumber, no you see a doctor, a medical insider. Your right I get the picture, but not the same picture you want to see.

[evilkumquat]

Evil, You need to get off the George Soros Kool-Aid. If you don't think Saddam was a threat ask the Kurds or the country of Kuwait. Ask our pilots who were being shot at in the "no fly" zone. Whether you want to admit it or not the surge in Iraq is working. It is no longer overrun by insurgents and suicide bombings are down. At the height of the Iraq war there were 207 reporters embedded with the military. To date they are down to 58 reporters. Why? Because there's no longer any sensational tabloid news to report. You are also wrong about Bush having the lowest approval rating. President Truman had the lowest at 23%. Bush 41 was 29%, Carter 28% and Nixon 24%. What traitor did he commute the prison sentence? If you're referring to Libby you got it wrong. The CIA operative was outed by the Assistant Secretary of State Armitage. What's wrong with talking to the industry insiders if they're the experts on energy. If you have a medical problem do you go see a plumber, no you see a doctor, a medical insider. Your right I get the picture, but not the same picture you want to see.

Saddam was NEVER a threat to us. Sure he was not a nice man, but the Idiot promised us Hussein had WMDs, Rice warned of a "Mushroom Cloud" and the entire Idiot's media corps went into overdrive trying to link Iraq with al Qaida, even though the terrorist organization had no ties to Iraq until AFTER the Idiot invaded. If we were so concerned about the Kurds, why didn't the Idiot's FATHER liberate them when he had his chance, instead of letting them be slaughtered by Saddam?

Sorry, I misspoke. The Idiot's DISAPPROVAL rating is the highest in polling history at 71%. His "approval" rating is third worst compared to Truman and Nixon. His family must be so proud.

Gee, why would there be fewer reporters, since Iraq is SO safe, I'm sure it's not because they don't feel safe over there and that they're sick of having their reports redacted and being forced to be propagandists.

Libby, Rove and Cheney all conspired to release Plame's name as retaliation against a whistleblower. Libby was CONVICTED. Bush commuted his sentence, even though he originally claimed he'd fire anyone in his organization that was responsible. Even former puppet (and still a weasel) McClellan admits he was duped by Bush, et al.

And why doesn't your argument that letting the energy industry make rules to govern themselves fill me with confidence? You used doctors as an example. Would you want the nations' laws regarding prescription drug costs written by the pharmaceutical industry? Wait, you defend Big Oil, so yeah, you probably would prefer it.

[Mr Douglas]

Evil, You need to get off the George Soros Kool-Aid. If you don't think Saddam was a threat ask the Kurds or the country of Kuwait. Ask our pilots who were being shot at in the "no fly" zone. Whether you want to admit it or not the surge in Iraq is working. It is no longer overrun by insurgents and suicide bombings are down. At the height of the Iraq war there were 207 reporters embedded with the military. To date they are down to 58 reporters. Why? Because there's no longer any sensational tabloid news to report.Your right I get the picture, but not the same picture you want to see...

There couldn't be too much left shooting at the pilots from the ground, could there?
As far as media, how many got BLEW UP??!! For crying out loud, I have an ex-brother in law that was there as a National Guard Reserve carpenter- He can't take four steps without starting to walk sideways! Doesn't sound like a good career move to me.
Have you EVER experienced C4, Composition B, detonation cord, ammonium nitrate?! I wouldn't even know what they have now. Where's all the media in Afghanistan? Most all I hear about is Iraq. Is Osama BinLaden in Iraq? Wasn't he the 9/11 guy?

It's like the whitebread Batman- Burgess Meridith is only in a few shows, and NEVER gets killed or there'd be no 'plot'- no "NEXT TURGID EPISODE". I hope everyone has enjoyed being 'milked', and NO- it hasn't paid off in OIL for MOST people, so it really "wasn't about oil".

[Mr Douglas]

The Taliban are experience a resurgence, Saddam was never a threat, Afghanistan is in the middle of a tug-o-war between tribal warlords, Iraq is overrun by insurgents and suicide bombers, the tone of the White House has been changed to one of arrogance and contempt for the Constitution, ushered in the most reviled presidency with the lowest approval ratings in modern history, allowed Cheney to write the energy laws with industry insiders that helped cause the California crisis, the cost of gas is the highest in our nation's history, commuted the prison sentence of a traitor who outed a covert CIA operative... but you get the picture.

"Dereliction of Duty"- as it were. $$$$$$$!!!!

[Mr Douglas]

I'm SICK of seeing 'Regular Folk"- 'Joe Six pack' or whomever, being played for, unfortunately, the BANJOS that they are.

[HomeyG]

Good morning Evil and Mr Douglas. Hope you had a good nights sleep. Evidently I must have pushed the right buttons after reading your diatribe.
Your arguments reminds me of a bucket with a hole in it. Neither one will hold water.

Let me say this slowly. L i b b y w a s n o t c o n v i c t e d o f o u t i n g P l a m e. He was convicted of lying to investigators. If you think about it, he was convicted of lying about a crime that didn't happen.

Evidently President Clinton thought they were a threat. In 1998 he had the armed forces attack Iraqi's military and security targets for the very same reasons, WMDs. Why didn't you mention this little tidbit of information?

You are right about Bush 41. He should had continue the fight to Baghdad. Guess what we would have found. That's right. WMDs.

Since we're talking about polls. Let's look at the congressional polling, with the democrats being the majority party. Last I heard it was hovering around 9 percent. Lowest ever. It's almost as low as the "I have no opinion" pollers.

The press has had more freedom to print the news about the Iraqi war then any other previous wars. If their reporting had been redacted as you claim, that would have been the news out of Iraq. Haven't been any to my knowledge unless if was classified. And, I'm not sure that would even stop the news service. If the military was so concerned with what was going to be reported, they would have never agreed with reporters being embedded.

I applaude your ex brother-in-law for his service. When you voluntarily join the military service you know that's there is a chance you'll go to war. Its a choice I made, its a choice he made.

[evilkumquat]

Good morning Evil and Mr Douglas. Hope you had a good nights sleep. Evidently I must have pushed the right buttons after reading your diatribe.
Your arguments reminds me of a bucket with a hole in it. Neither one will hold water.

Let me say this slowly. L i b b y w a s n o t c o n v i c t e d o f o u t i n g P l a m e. He was convicted of lying to investigators. If you think about it, he was convicted of lying about a crime that didn't happen.

Evidently President Clinton thought they were a threat. In 1998 he had the armed forces attack Iraqi's military and security targets for the very same reasons, WMDs. Why didn't you mention this little tidbit of information?

You are right about Bush 41. He should had continue the fight to Baghdad. Guess what we would have found. That's right. WMDs.

Since we're talking about polls. Let's look at the congressional polling, with the democrats being the majority party. Last I heard it was hovering around 9 percent. Lowest ever. It's almost as low as the "I have no opinion" pollers.

The press has had more freedom to print the news about the Iraqi war then any other previous wars. If their reporting had been redacted as you claim, that would have been the news out of Iraq. Haven't been any to my knowledge unless if was classified. And, I'm not sure that would even stop the news service. If the military was so concerned with what was going to be reported, they would have never agreed with reporters being embedded.

I applaude your ex brother-in-law for his service. When you voluntarily join the military service you know that's there is a chance you'll go to war. Its a choice I made, its a choice he made.

Many times, especially with crimes involving conspiracies, it is easier (and sometimes only possible) to convict the guilty on a lesser crime than the one they actually performed. Sure it would have been nice to nail Libby for his part in the outing, but Fitz knew that digging up all the evidence, with much of it already destroyed or altered by Rove, Cheney, Libby, et al, was problematic at best, and for the chance of any justice, Libby was prosecuted for his part in the cover up. Personally, I'm sure there was plenty of evidence of the crime, but Libby worked out a deal with Fitz (probably after making his deal with Bush that Libby would never see jail time if he just quit fighting). That's how this sleazy Administration operates, after all.

At the time of Clinton's involvement with Hussein, his attacks were as retaliation for credible evidence that Iraqi intelligence had attempted an assassination on the Idiot's father as well as to force that dictator to comply with UN weapons inspections required after the end of the first Gulf War.

Had the Idiot's father pushed to Baghdad, we may have found the WMD's Hussein had at the time... all of which were DESTROYED or rendered inoperative by the time the Idiot used them as the excuse to invade the country that had threatened his "daddy". Additionally, the Idiot's father took the advice of his associates at the time NOT to invade Iraq due to the expense and an expected insurgency that would drain our country of troops via a systematic program of guerrilla warfare. One of those advisers? Cheney.

Congress, with its razor thin Democratic majority, is suffering at the polls for not being aggressive ENOUGH against the Idiot and his failures in Afghanistan and Iraq. Remember, with as many people disgusted with the GOP, those bad numbers reflect anger against the very large minority in the Capitol.

The press has more freedom than in other wars??? Is that why we see all those caskets in the news, or all those military funerals, or all the pictures and videos from Fallujah, and all those interviews with the Gitmo POWs, etc. etc.?