Is Angola wasting time and money?

[michael medeski]

the whole idea of this was to get other peoples opinions. i already know what julie cole would say. thorman do you have an opinion or do you call julie cole when you need one? all i am saying is that there are better things to do with angola's money than fix up downtown. can you think of any?

[Thorman]

Although I am not in the mood to get into a blogging ****ing match, I will respond. If you check my previous postings you will find that I have actively discussed my views on good government. Rest assured that these ideas are my own without the help of others. I also, however, make sure to find the necessary facts/information to support my viewpoints. Therefore, I can say that I believe that they are educated opinions. [granted, I may be biased towards my own viewpoints but that is natural]

As to fixing downtown, much of the money has come from grants that the city has received, either out-right or via matching moneys. The center of a city cannot be allowed to die or the city will become a donut with no business or social activity. Examine Indianapolis and Fort Wayne as examples. Who goes downtown FW? The city is correct in working to preserve our downtown because it is an investment for everyone in the city and the county. Redevelopment of the downtown for economic purposes as well as quality of life purposes makes sense to me.

[michael medeski]

thanks thorman.

that's the kind of reply i want to hear. i want to hear what everyone thinks.
so what you are saying is, that they can't use any of the money in the fund for anything but downtown.
you say much of the money comes from grants. so not all of it. right?
why do i see fundraisers for the downtown fund, but none to to cleanup the water or salt for roads or other things i hear the city needs money for. it seems all i hear about is downtown improvement. in my opinion it should not be at the very top of the citys agenda right now. i like the downtown. i would like to see a bypass someday when we have extra money. do we now?

p.s. i think we can talk about this without ****ing. whatever that is.

[TheBigB]

I've gotten another one of my good ideas. It would be a major move, would avoid the wasting of money for downtown redevelopment, and would solve the US 20 bypass issue - all in one fell swoop.

Move the monument a mile or two north, maybe to one of those undeveloped tracts between Meijer and Walmart, maybe to the old Sutton's parking lot, somewhere out there. Move the "downtown" out there, and the mound bottleneck goes away!!!



Edit: curse to James for the 4 emoticon limit!!!

[evilkumquat]

p.s. i think we can talk about this without ****ing. whatever that is.

I'll give you a hint.

The word is an onomatoPEEa.

Those who aren't laughing right now should have studied more in high school.

[denali]

The name of this thread is:
"Is Angola wasting time and money?

Who is Angola? The taxpayers? The Chamber? The Mayor? I am not sure what is meant by "Angola".

As far as I know, taxpayers are not paying for these improvements, or are they? If not, then if there are grants and people that want to fund these improvements, then why not-have at it?

I envision the downtown area much more than what it presently is, bringing revenue, preserving the history, providing a gathering place for the community, etc.

If not now, when?

If I remember correctly there was just an article in the Herald saying that there were 18 beds at the shelter and only 12 were being. If people want a bigger shelter, get involved, raise the money, don't just complain, take action.

This is scarcity thinking, we can do more than one thing at a time.

[michael medeski]

when i say angola i mean everyone, the city of. so from what i am reading angola has plenty of money. they are not short on money for anything? is the money for one thing not alowed to be used for another? the main thing i don't understand is that the city is short money in some areas, but they do have money to do other things. i guess if ALL the downtown money comes from grants, and can only be used for trees, flowers ect.,then by all means use it. but i think finding enough money to clean up univertical should first on the list of things to improve angola. like i stated earlier in the thread i don't know the inner workings of city gov't that well, so maybe there is no way of taking the money for one thing and using it for another. you mention some people want to fund these improvments. why would those people not want their money used for anything that would help improve the city. not just the looks.

[pixiegirl]

I'll give you a hint.

The word is an onomatoPEEa.

Those who aren't laughing right now should have studied more in high school.

ROFL

[michael medeski]

so the streetscape project starts in 2010. do you think they will have univertical and our water cleaned up by then?
i hope so.

[armyda]

so the streetscape project starts in 2010. do you think they will have univertical and our water cleaned up by then?
i hope so.

Where did you hear that?

[michael medeski]

Where did you hear that?

wlki news on their web site. INDOT is to start work on the road in 2010.

[armyda]

Thanks, I was just curious

[troublesome one]

But is anything to become of the bypass?

Most people think of a northern route while former Angola councilman Harry Nix wanted one to go south. Maybe in conjunction with a sewer district??

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But is anything to become of the bypass?

Most people think of a northern route while former Angola councilman Harry Nix wanted one to go south. Maybe in conjunction with a sewer district??

Personally with the intersections of the Toll Road and 69 so close I don't believe little ole Angola will ever see no truck bypass. But should Angola's population ever outgrow its banks I still say both an over-head Amtrack train stop and truck bypass should be built over the EK's house

[evilkumquat]

But should Angola's population ever outgrow its banks I still say both an over-head Amtrack train stop and truck bypass should be built over the EK's house

Why not?

Maybe the traffic would drown out the !#$!@$ noise from that neighbor's dog.

[troublesome one]

Personally with the intersections of the Toll Road and 69 so close I don't believe little ole Angola will ever see no truck bypass. But should Angola's population ever outgrow its banks I still say both an over-head Amtrack train stop and truck bypass should be built over the EK's house

I'll come to EK's defense on that one, Faff.

tweeeeeeeet...Personal Foul unnecessary noise

[denali]

Why not?

Maybe the traffic would drown out the !#$!@$ noise from that neighbor's dog.

What kind of situation is that dog in? Is it chained and left to bark all the time?

[evilkumquat]

What kind of situation is that dog in? Is it chained and left to bark all the time?

Well, last night, the dog was chained outside the door, barking just about non-stop until around 10:00pm. Just when I had enough and was about to shout out my window, the neighbor opened up the door and told the dog off.

Later, around 1:00am or so, it started barking again for about another half hour then stopped. I don't know if they took it inside or I just fell asleep.

They've left the dog outside in VERY cold weather before and they don't have it secured to a sturdy pole, rather a cinderblock that looks like the dog can move it if it tries hard enough. It is a medium-small dog (I have no idea what breed it is; I don't know dogs very well).

A few times it managed to move the block enough to almost reach our cars as we pull in to my driveway (once darting out and scaring the hell out of me as I was pulling in). It wasn't close enough to get hit, but close enough to LOOK like it could get hit.

To her credit, the neighbor came out and moved the chain back (or shortened it). I've thought about complaining to the city but I feel bad for the neighbor since she seems older and lonely and that dog may be her only companion (I don't know this for certain since I really don't know anything about the woman).

This won't keep me from screaming out my window at midnight if she lets the ****** thing bark and keep my wife up, though. I'm a night owl, but my wife has to get up very early in the morning to get the kids ready for school.

Even if I'm not trying to sleep, the dog is very annoying.

It doesn't bark like that every night, but there have been plenty of nights like the last. I've had to scream out my window three or four times to get them to take it inside.

[michael medeski]

i think i know why the city is more worried about fixing up downtown than fixing our water. the people that make these donations must not live in town and have to drink the city's water. PLUS i found out that some of the city people heading the downtown improvement, own stores and restruants downtown.

i guess if i owned a business downtown, and did not have to drink the city water, i would be more worried about the possibality of making more money instead of the enviroment too.

[michael medeski]

i just read that local officials are metting with IDEM tomorrow. GOOD. i hope things get resolved ASAP. that was good to hear.