Executive Order to Ban Fishing

[HomeyG]

Will President Obama sign an Executive Order that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters?

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/s...ory?id=4975762

[Mrs.Slotz]

Another stupid move by the President. Why am I not surprised.

[HoosierHelen]

Just another RW scare tactic as far as I am concerned. I remember the RW scaring everyone that Obama was going to take away their gun rights. Heck, now they are wearing their guns into Starbucks without inference.

The key word is 'could' in this statement. The Administration could prohibit fishing in nation's waterways. California 'could' have an earthquake tomorrow and fall off into the ocean.

My personal take on this story is that once again we are seeing the RW pump fear into citizens, rather than recognizing a study is being done of the effects of both commercial and recreational fishing. Maintaining this data is important to understanding the effects of these activities on our fishing industries and use of our waterways. Most research has a cut off point where the public input and interviews are cut off and then the analysis and stastics are recorded and reported.

Personally, I have maintained an interest in the Asian Carp that was introduced into the Mississippi River and has been steadily migrating north towards the Great Lakes. These fish eat many times their own weight each day of other natural fish in the Mississippi. Thankfully, studies have been done that show an insignificant number have actually made their way into the Great Lakes and that their survival in cold water lakes has been very poor.

We still have issues in the lower Mississippi river where the river is warmer and the loss of natural fish to this area, but we can now rest easier that we won't be loosing our native fish in the Great Lakes to the migration of these fish. Studies such as this are important and do NOT mean someone is going to swipe your fishing license out of your back pocket.

[matt_s]

This is the first I've heard of the issue. I think I agree with Helen on this. It smells of fear-mongering.

I'm not even sure that an executive order would have the capability to do what they are saying could happen.

[edeevee]

Does this look like a guy who's about to ban fishing?

[Felary]

Andy Griffith of Mayberry would be totaly upset!

[HomeyG]

There's a story within the story and it appears that most of you have missed it. Here is that story:

The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.

This doesn't bother you that as an American citizen your opinion no longer count and does not want to be heard.

[edeevee]

There's a story within the story and it appears that most of you have missed it. Here is that story:

[SIZE=\\\\"4\\\\"]The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters[/SIZE].


This doesn't bother you that as an American citizen your opinion no longer count and does not want to be heard.

Perhaps you missed it, Homey. The comment period started in December and was open for its full, planned 60 days. Doesn't it bother you that the people you so want to put your trust in (Hannity, et al) try to play you for a fool over and over again?

This study is about coordinating efforts to control our nation's resources. It's about considering every interested group's rights and responsibilities. It's about moving shipping lanes so they don't follow the same path as whales, and limiting catches of dwindling species so the world doesn't run out of sushi. What this IS NOT ABOUT is whether you can fish in Lake James.

I'm not saying there aren't extremists out there who think that recreational fishing = murder. Those people exist. But just because they were given a chance to state their opinions in a series of public meetings or in an online comment collector (just like you could have done if you wanted to) does not mean Obama is going to ban fishing. That's sensationalism, fear mongering, hate politics and bad logic.

Don't take the bait.

[john40]

Another stupid move by the President. Why am I not surprised.

Perhaps he wants to put a fish farm on Mayor Oders property.

[2cents]

I believe the fine print at the bottom of the article was missed stating the article was just an opinion. "This is an opinion column from Robert Montgomery. As a Senior Writer for BASS Publications, Montgomery has written about conservation, environment, and access issues for more than two decades."
When I read something that concerns me I like to check out the facts. When I checked this out and clicked the link to view the comments submitted on this issue, I was very disappointed to see that there were no comments submitted. I hope it is a problem with the server and plan to go back and check again later. If rights are taken away from us it could be our own fault for not being responsible enough to follow issues that concern us and giving our input that is asked from us. Below are a few links which supply more information on the issue reported on, if anyone is interested.
http://www.msp.noaa.gov/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administra...erim-framework

[Night Owl]

Fear mongering at its best!

I admit that I tune into WOWO for news when I am in the car from time to time. This afternoon I hear that Pres. Obama wants to "ban fishing in my backyard," nothing mentioned about rivers, oceans or any other details for that matter.

Local check, I find this story on WANE.com which states "According to some - including lawmakers like Congressman Mark Souder - those recommendations leave the door wide open to a ban on recreation fishing."

Upon further checking its all a hoax started by a reporter at ESPN.com as an opinion piece and not even close to being true.

Imagine Mark Souder being behind spreading something like this!

http://www.examiner.com/x-37128-Char...to-ban-fishing

The original ESPN story is here.

Just goes to show, you can't believe anything you hear anymore!

[Graygleam]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling !!!!!..................................or not

[HoosierHelen]

Fear mongering at its best!

I admit that I tune into WOWO for news when I am in the car from time to time. This afternoon I hear that Pres. Obama wants to \"ban fishing in my backyard,\" nothing mentioned about rivers, oceans or any other details for that matter.

Local check, I find this story on WANE.com which states \"According to some - including lawmakers like Congressman Mark Souder - those recommendations leave the door wide open to a ban on recreation fishing.\"

Upon further checking its all a hoax started by a reporter at ESPN.com as an opinion piece and not even close to being true.

Imagine Mark Souder being behind spreading something like this!

http://www.examiner.com/x-37128-Charlotte-Fishing-Examiner~y2010m3d9-ESPN-claims-Obama-is-about-to-ban-fishing

The original ESPN story is here.

Just goes to show, you can't believe anything you hear anymore!

Good Grief! I totally enjoyed scarey stories around a campfire when I was 10-12 yrs old...it made the rest of the night and my nightmares very interesting. To reduce our studies of the health of our rivers, streams, and lakes to a 'boogey man' story that can be used to scare the conservatives in our area in another direction is a sin against Mother Nature herself!!

First the conservative invented the gun and bullet scare...so everyone who believed Obama was going to pull their weapons out of their cold, dead fingers, purchased all inventory available in this area. There has been a very REAL shortage due to that fear campaign.

Now we will probably see an increased demand in fishing licenses (both private & commercial)...that's okay...we do want y'all to be licensed. Next, all you sporting goods stores....stock up with all the fishing gear available to you, because, you will now be overcome with the demand for the latest in fishing gear, before we are banned from our nations waters. pssst... Here's a tip for those who aren't so legally minded.....prepare yourselves for the opportunity of selling undercover fishing tours (licensed fishers only). You can offer boat trips on our waterways where the Obama men are guaranteed to not be present. It's bound to be a big money maker!!!

[ted4502000]

Will President Obama sign an Executive Order that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters?

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/s...ory?id=4975762

HOMEY??

Are you kidding me.. 1st of all, the president doesn't make laws. I have a friend that tells me all the time: Obama is going to take our guns away, Obama isn't even an American, Obamas goal is a totally socialist country, Obama is out of control on spending, Obama is trying to outlaw handguns, Obama is creating death panels in his health care program, Obama is taking our money. HELLO IS ANY ONE OUT THERE

This story sounds like an NRA stunt to me. Flat out lies to stir public opinion against Obama.

The only problem is that there are people out there who don't understand the process of government enough and think that he can actually do this. LMAO.

[Mr Douglas]

Actually, Executive Orders exist and have been used many times, but they're usually pursuant of an act of Congress. They are law.

[ted4502000]

Another stupid move by the President. Why am I not surprised.

What were the other "stupid" moves the President did?? Pushing ahead on Health Care reform?? Doing exactly what he campaigned on and was elected by the majority of the people in this country to do??? I hear the Republicans say that a majority of people don't want health care reform? But, aren't they the minority party and don't they represent the "minority" of people in this country????

[nathandiehl]

Actually, Executive Orders exist and have been used many times, but they're usually pursuant of an act of Congress. They are law.

What?
Executive Orders are not law.

Law comes from an Act of Congress, and that's it. The Executive Branch of our government cannot make laws.

Executive Orders are regulations to carry out (execute) the laws the Legislative Branch has made.

Executive Orders are regulations, not laws.

[ted4502000]

Actually, Executive Orders exist and have been used many times, but they're usually pursuant of an act of Congress. They are law.

Point taken Mr. Douglas.

With that being said though. They (executive orders) are subject to scrutiny by the Judicial Branch, and can be overturned.

[Mr Douglas]

What?
Executive Orders are not law.

Law comes from an Act of Congress, and that's it. The Executive Branch of our government cannot make laws.

Executive Orders are regulations to carry out (execute) the laws the Legislative Branch has made.

Executive Orders are regulations, not laws.

"Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent."

"Executive orders as issued by the governors of the states are not laws, but do have the same binding nature. Executive orders are usually based on existing constitutional or statutory powers of the Governor and do not require any action by the state legislature to take effect."

[nathandiehl]

\"Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.\"

\"Executive orders as issued by the governors of the states are not laws, but do have the same binding nature. Executive orders are usually based on existing constitutional or statutory powers of the Governor and do not require any action by the state legislature to take effect.\"

Right.
Legally binding does not equal law.

The Executive Branch executes Laws, and the execution is legally binding. (If it wasn't legally binding, the President would be useless.)