Occupy Wall Street protest

[blue adept]

Gee Blue, to bad you don't feel the same about the Tea Party.

I didn't mind some of the tea parties message, less government would be fine, lower taxes would be fine, but for the most part they only want to lower taxes for the very rich. It doesn't work. Flat tax, will not work. 999 will not work. The very rich must pay a larger percentage in order for there to be a working republic.

[BigDeel]

I didn't mind some of the tea parties message, less government would be fine, lower taxes would be fine, but for the most part they only want to lower taxes for the very rich. It doesn't work. Flat tax, will not work. 999 will not work. The very rich must pay a larger percentage in order for there to be a working republic.

Less taxes means less revenue. The occupiers want everything paid for by big government,by taxing the rich.

[blue adept]

Less taxes means less revenue. The occupiers want everything paid for by big government,by taxing the rich.

That's hogwash propaganda. Either you are one of the rich, or, you are one of their patsies. The very rich are supposed to be paying 35% or more, but if you talk to any good accountants, you find that the richer you get, the more you can deduct, to lower your percentage. I believe even one of the very rich was saying that, not too long ago, but I digress. The " occupiers" as you call them, are just tired of the inequality of income in this country. If the economy is in such bad shape, how is it that the very rich, are getting richer? If nothing is being manufactured in this country, how are the rich doing so well? Have you ever stopped to think about it?

[blue adept]

Lets get something straight right off the bat, the rich, trying to get lower taxes, are not going to help you if you make less than a million. The tax cuts they want, are not going to effect you. The 999 plan is going to put a national sales tax of 9% on top of our state sales tax of 7%. That will not effect corporate people that buy tax exempt and use those products for their upper echelons. How do you think corporates afford the very rich auto's and planes, do you think they buy them out of their own pockets? If you do, you are deluded, and I understand why you would back them. This 999 plan is going to bankrupt the very poor, and the lower middle class. The same way a flat tax would. The only fair method is to have the very rich pay more, or at least, not allow them any deductions.

[BigDeel]

......... The " occupiers" as you call them,......

I did not pick that name,they did because they did not want to be called protesters.

[armyda]

I see you are using the typical spin from the left that when the Republicans talk about deregulation you are interpreting that as total deregulation just as when we talk about smaller government your interpretation is no government. Not speaking for anyone else but myself deregulation means rescinding those regulations that hampers competitiveness, which hampers productivity, which results in higher prices, which diminishes job creation.

Seat Belts, drug testing, car mufflers, ban on lead paint, ban on DDT. All of these things cause higher prices.

Less taxes means less revenue. The occupiers want everything paid for by big government,by taxing the rich.

I'll tell you what: I'll make a deal, the Social Security Tax cut can expire if they also remove the Bush tax cuts at the same time. Anyone else want to join in?

[HoosierHelen]

If you don't think that it's new regulations and/or taxes are responsible for the failure to lower unemployment rates please tell us what is the cause.

We haven't solved the unemployment problem because corporations have no incentives to hire American. They ship the unskilled jobs overseas. They import H-1B workers (skilled workers with salaries starting at $60k) into our nation to replace our own skilled workers. Then we all try to figure out where the jobs went!

If indeed our imported H-1B employees are that much better than American employees, as Americans we need to ask that hard question of ourselves? How do we compete with the cheap non skilled labor jobs being done overseas...I don't have those answers. I am not an economic major. It is most obvious we don't have the correct mix of regulations and incentives to bring the jobs back to the USA yet.

[HoosierHelen]

Column by Bob Culp of the Star today on the Occupy Fort Wayne protest:

http://www.kpcnews.com/index.php?opt...ticle&id=18188

That is a very nice piece by Bob Culp. I'm also pleased to read about the library and reading material these protesters have surrounded themselves with. Pretty darn sure they would be more comfortable at home in a warm bed these cold nights. Sounds like the Ft Wayne group are asking alot of the necessary questions, respecting our laws and sincerely trying to make a difference. I'm proud to know they are part of our community.

[ferratus]

Here you are, calling a quarter of them communist, without proof, and then whining about all cops being called bad for the actions of one,or maybe a few more. You don't see the irony, or hypocrisy, of that statement? Whether you like them or not, call them names or not, they are your fellow citizens, using their American rights to protest, and yes, maybe even start a revolution. I call that pure American!

NO I do not see the hypocrisy . If you want to call a 1/4 of law enforcement corrupt so be it. I have NO problem with that. What do you mean without proof did you not see where I posted interviews. What more proof do you need ? Seriously ? and Carrying the old soviet flag and the current flag of communist china and wanting to start a revolution to adopt their ways of life is PURE AMERICAN then you SIR !!!! have some issues.

[blue adept]

NO I do not see the hypocrisy . If you want to call a 1/4 of law enforcement corrupt so be it. I have NO problem with that. What do you mean without proof did you not see where I posted interviews. What more proof do you need ? Seriously ? and Carrying the old soviet flag and the current flag of communist china and wanting to start a revolution to adopt their ways of life is PURE AMERICAN then you SIR !!!! have some issues.

A posted interview is still opinion, not fact.Carrying a flag does not necessarily mean you want to adopt their way of life, it could say, this is what you are turning us into, it could mean anything, you are jumping to conclusions. And, by the way, revolution is extremely American, no matter what they espouse, if they think it will be better, IT IS AMERICAN. I do not have issues with my American citizenship, I do have issues with people telling me what I can or cannot do, when it is perfectly clear that I have a constitutional right to do it.



A Little Rebellion Now and Then Is A Good Thing
A Letter From Thomas Jefferson To James Madison

[HomeyG]

A posted interview is still opinion, not fact.Carrying a flag does not necessarily mean you want to adopt their way of life, it could say, this is what you are turning us into, it could mean anything, you are jumping to conclusions. And, by the way, revolution is extremely American, no matter what they espouse, if they think it will be better, IT IS AMERICAN. I do not have issues with my American citizenship, I do have issues with people telling me what I can or cannot do, when it is perfectly clear that I have a constitutional right to do it.


A Little Rebellion Now and Then Is A Good Thing
A Letter From Thomas Jefferson To James Madison

Blue,

Remember what you said the next time you see someone carrying a confederate flag.

[Graygleam]

Blue,

Remember what you said the next time you see someone carrying a confederate flag.

Something like this flag, Homey?

http://theragblog.blogspot.com/2010/...ntry-back.html

[HomeyG]

Something like this flag, Homey?

http://theragblog.blogspot.com/2010/...ntry-back.html

Yep. There are times that it is appropriate to fly another country's flag but I think in both cases it was done to display support for their way of life and is inappropriate.

[HomeyG]

[QUOTE=armyda;82782]Seat Belts, drug testing, car mufflers, ban on lead paint, ban on DDT. All of these things cause higher prices.

If you read my comment carefully you will find that I said: "rescinding those regulations that hamper" not "rescinding all regulations" which evidently you want to read into my comments. Do you really think that I think that seat belts, drug testing, car mufflers, and banning of lead paint and DDT are regulations that hamper?

[blue adept]

Blue,

Remember what you said the next time you see someone carrying a confederate flag.

I was in the military Homey, do I need to remind you? Every other crackpot or national had a different flag on their car, in their room, or what have you. Most raw recruits go through boot in the south, where every other house flies the stars and bars, and I could care less. They have the right as Americans to fly whatever they want, including the swastika. By the way, I had great greats on both sides of the conflict, and can see reasons on both sides, just not the slavery issue, and there was more to the issue, just like here.

[Graygleam]

Yep. There are times that it is appropriate to fly another country's flag but I think in both cases it was done to display support for their way of life and is inappropriate.

I agree....

[HoosierHelen]

Inasmuch as the Occupy Protest for Wall Street and their spin off supporters do not VET the participants in their marches prior to their public march...how do we know WHO has planted these foreign flags in our national/local demonstrations?

Just saying...If anyone wants to discredit another...does it not work well to make their 'Right' look 'Wrong' in the public eyes with distractions such as this? Who indeed is wearing these uniforms and camouflage? I'm pretty sure I am not acquainted with any of them. Take them for their face value ...or use your instincts and figure it out.

[HomeyG]

Inasmuch as the Occupy Protest for Wall Street and their spin off supporters do not VET the participants in their marches prior to their public march...how do we know WHO has planted these foreign flags in our national/local demonstrations?

Just saying...If anyone wants to discredit another...does it not work well to make their 'Right' look 'Wrong' in the public eyes with distractions such as this? Who indeed is wearing these uniforms and camouflage? I'm pretty sure I am not acquainted with any of them. Take them for their face value ...or use your instincts and figure it out.

Would that be like plants at Tea Party rallies?

[HoosierHelen]

Would that be like plants at Tea Party rallies?

Yes...AND...neither one are right. However, how do we prevent it?

[Mr Douglas]

This whole Left/Right belly ain't gettin' any pinker... Why can't we dismiss with the TV, AM radio, etc., and get to talking about what would actually help for once.
Division is easy. What will unify us?.....If anything.