Occupy Wall Street protest

[HomeyG]

Just for added info, the policeman in question has been identified and has been accused in a 2004 civil rights violation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...nthony-bologna

[LuciusBeebe]

I agree

Good.

but one bad cop doesn't make the protesters innocent bystanders.

Wait, you just said you agree...

Which is it? Did they deserve to be pepper sprayed or not?

[HomeyG]

Good.



Wait, you just said you agree...

Which is it? Did they deserve to be pepper sprayed or not?

I agree in this instance the cop overreacted but looking at the big picture most protesters are not innocent bystanders that's being portrayed by mainstream media.

[LuciusBeebe]

I agree in this instance the cop overreacted but looking at the big picture most protesters are not innocent bystanders that's being portrayed by mainstream media.

Well, a clip was posted showing cops being unprovoked... why not show your side? Got anything that shows these protesters as the provocateurs* you say they are?

As for the mainstream media, I haven't seen them portraying the cops as thugs beating on poor hippies. Who's doing that story?



*I did see that the ol' ACORN prankster was mixing in the crowd. Wonder what he's up to...

[Graygleam]

I am confused. Are we discussing the mainstream media, or the lamestream media?

[LuciusBeebe]

From Cracked, of all places...

In the America I thought I lived in, we expect business-people to be driven by profit, but we rely on our Government to protect us from those abuses. We expect Government to set laws to govern what a business can and cannot do. Government can establish a minimum wage, ban child labor, and tax imports. Government can enact rules against predatory lending or . .. anything if it has the support of the people. And we expect our government to keep us safe from this cold unfeeling beast we call capitalism with things like food stamps, Medicaid, unemployment benefits, and social security.

Isn't that the relationship we've all agreed on because it makes sense?

If you visited the zoo and your whole family were mauled to death by several ferocious tigers, would you march to Indonesia, protesting the insatiable blood-lust of tigers? Would you seek to have tigers removed from the zoo even though they're the biggest attraction, selling the most tickets and keeping everyone in business? Or would you just, y'know, be furious because the Zoo forgot to lock the cages? I thought we all knew tigers were dangerous and we agreed we'd keep them around anyway because we had competent zookeepers and big steel bars.

Let this be a protest which defines and demands a structure from our government to protect us from the wild animal of capitalism, because you'll never make a tiger a vegetarian no matter how many of you take a dump in Zucotti Park.

[blue adept]

Oh, I don't know. The Tea Party was organized with one common theme of less spending and lower taxes, where the Wall Street protesters ranges from complete anarchy to destroy capitalism; support communism; to the legitimate protest of "I want a job"; with a few legalize drugs and anti-war protesting. The funniest one was the guy that quit his job to come to Wall Street to protest that he didn't have a job. Unlike the Tea Party I expect the Wall Street protest will eventually die on the vine from lack of central support. Only the extreme left of the political spectrum will associate themselves with Wall Street protesters while others will keep a respectable distance.

Gray,

You're fishing again. Videos I've seen show the police attacking protesters but never show what preceded that attack. If you got something different I would certainly appreciate seeing them.

Homey, you tried to defend your glorious tea party, basically saying they are legit, while the wall streeters are communists. All you are doing is backpedaling, and shifting blame, it's not going to work.The wall street protesters are legit, and peaceful.

[HomeyG]

Homey, you tried to defend your glorious tea party, basically saying they are legit, while the wall streeters are communists. All you are doing is backpedaling, and shifting blame, it's not going to work.The wall street protesters are legit, and peaceful.

Blue,

I use to have great respect for you, your thoughts, and the way you post but lately you have really been off track. Please show me where I have said that wall streeters are communists or even hinted to that effect. If I have it was not my intent and I will personally extend my apologies to you and my fellow Fence Posters, however, if I haven't then I expect the same from you.

[blue adept]

Oh, I don't know. The Tea Party was organized with one common theme of less spending and lower taxes, where the Wall Street protesters ranges from complete anarchy to destroy capitalism; support communism; to the legitimate protest of "I want a job"; with a few legalize drugs and anti-war protesting. The funniest one was the guy that quit his job to come to Wall Street to protest that he didn't have a job. Unlike the Tea Party I expect the Wall Street protest will eventually die on the vine from lack of central support. Only the extreme left of the political spectrum will associate themselves with Wall Street protesters while others will keep a respectable distance.

Ring a bell?

[HomeyG]

Ring a bell?

I also said there were protests by those wanting a job, and those supporting anarchy, legalizing drugs and anti-war protesting. Why didn't you accuse me of calling them anarchists, druggies or anti-war hippies. So I'll stand by my statement, I did not call them communists, but what I did say there were communists participating in the protests, just as there were anarchists, those that want to legalize drugs and anti-war protesters and that's why I said the protest has no central theme.

[bigkneedgal]

Now they're going to kill everyone!!!

"Capitalists, if you think that you can play footsies with these people, you're wrong. They will come for you and drag you into the streets and kill you...they're Marxist radicals...these guys are worse than Robespierre from the French Revolution...they'll kill everybody." Glenn Beck

Oh, the stupid.....it burns!

[blue adept]

I will take it one further. If you listen to Mr. Beck, he says in that clip, how great it would be to send in troops, and tanks, to stop this. Is this the man who's words you listen to and revere? Are we to become Russia, and or China to send troops in to take out our civilians? You might want to rethink this, most of those troops are just as poor as the rest of us. Most of the NCO's have discussed this privately, and already come to conclusions about this scenario.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1004016.html

It all starts at 3:40 I particularly like it when he talks about the head effigy on a pike and how the tea party never went to that extreme, but as we all know, they went there, and miles beyond.

[ferratus]

Homey, you tried to defend your glorious tea party, basically saying they are legit, while the wall streeters are communists. All you are doing is backpedaling, and shifting blame, it's not going to work.The wall street protesters are legit, and peaceful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xdENes5KeQ <------- if you would like I can post a whole lot more.

[Graygleam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xdENes5KeQ <------- if you would like I can post a whole lot more.

Shocking!!!! Have they (the protesters) started killing people yet?

[BigDeel]

....... Are we to become Russia, and or China.......

Funny you say that right after I watch the video of one of the "occupiers" carrying China's flag

[hairypumper]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph...b_1016941.html

[TheBigB]

Am I the only person that sees "occupy Wall Street" and is wondering why anybody is protesting outside the MSD of Steuben County central office?

[HomeyG]

I understand the feelings protesters have for Wall Street but what I don't understand why there are no protests of the Administration, members of Congress, Chairman of the Federal Reserve, and the President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The President and Congress for authorizing the bailout and the Federal Reserve Chairman along with the President of the New York Federal Reserve for not providing necessary oversight of Wall Street.

[Graygleam]

We probably should keep in mind here that YouTube is very much like the Bible, in that you can "prove your point", using either, no matter what your point might be.

[HoosierHelen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xdENes5KeQ <------- if you would like I can post a whole lot more.

Why do you suppose someone would show up carrying another nations flag in an American demonstration?