You Can't Make This Stuff Up, Folks !!

[Common-Tater]

BS i've seen it a 1000 times. i used to be a promoter for concerts and sporting events. i've seen how these guys act on the road. they are all the same. that girl is just one of the hundreds of others that these mobile baby factories seed each year. it's sickening. this is what's wrong with our society. they need to lock these deadbeats up. they will never change.



we all have to grow up sometime, but that doesn't make your post any less biased.

Could you curb your posts from being so mean, nasty, and hateful? I think we can have discussions without you being insulting, demeaning, and hurtful. Do you get your jolies on it?

[Common-Tater]

I am most disappointed to hear this news. I enjoyed Todd's postings and felt he added intelligent input to the FP. Loosing Todd is a loss to the FP, in my opinion. I've never felt for a moment that he had misrepresented himself on here. Unless someone has actual proof, accusations such as this are harmful and destructive to all of us.

It is most obvious to me that Todd reposted a quote from Obama on Republican Rep. Virginia Foxx. Now the fact that our President misquoted her does NOT reflect on Todd.


Approx a yr ago, I had someone make a false accusation by PM informing other members on FP that I had visited his workplace and attempted to cause him to loose his employment to other members on FP. I was extremely offended, angry, and considered filing slander charges against the individual. It just so happened at that time my place of employment carried high security cameras on all of us and it would not have been difficult for me to prove my whereabouts by video date/time and also co-workers statements. After several members of FP who had received this message informed me they did not believe this fellow, I decided to let it go. My point is spreading misinformation, calling people liars, etc reflects negatively on the source of misinformation.

Are we not capable on here to carry on constructive dialog without resorting to name calling? Blue, I understand you anger much better now.

I know that Torget recently left due to his last encounter on here with Todd. You state high praise for Todd, but there were times when he has made inapropriate statements. He suggested that Torget hung with criminals because he happened to have an example of someone he knew who was committing welfare fraud. These are the kinds of personal statemants many of you make on here that would anger anyone. Some of you don't debate issues you just find the most dramatic way to crush, humiliate, degrade, bash, and tear people down. THAT is the FP. I don't believe there is enough moderation on here.

[michael medeski]

Could you curb your posts from being so mean, nasty, and hateful? I think we can have discussions without you being insulting, demeaning, and hurtful. Do you get your jolies on it?

oh i see. it's "mean, nasty, and hateful" when it's about justin bieber, but it's all good when you say it about the poor.....

Sounds like a bunch of lazy cheaters to me.

or here...

Many of the poor are just as bad. Many are simply lazy who could work but don't want to "lower themselves" to working a customer service related job such as food service, retail, or janitorial/housekeeping. Their wages going to pay for lazy ******** who could work but wont and the rich who find every excuse not to pay taxes.

or here....

being born in poverty is not an excuse to be a burden.

Those who rely on the government for everything are foolish. These people rely on government to force money away from those who earn it. If you don't give up your money so the govenrement can give it to someone who's not doing anything to support themselves, they forcible take it and put you in jail. These people are parasites of the community. Giving nothing to their community, but expecting their neighbors to support them. If I'm going to give taxes to support these people, they should be doing something for me. How about mowing my lawn? Do something to earn what's given instead of expecting others to take care of them. When they say the GOVERNMENT should do this for me, what they're really saying is that their neighbors should be doing it for them.

or again here....

These kinds of programs just coddle people and make them lazy. Why are pigeons attracted to cities and parks? Because they don't have to work for their food. They get fat and lazy and don't have to work for anything. Wild animals that are turned into pets are very difficult to release back into the wild because they're used to being taken care of instead of working for their meals and shelter. It does the same to people

then you get the old people here....

You think you have more wisdom and kowledge because you're twenty years old than me? All that means, honestly, is that you're old. The old do not have the market cornered on wisdom. Problem with baby boomers is they think they know better than everyone else. I know enough to know you're parents did a better job at running this country that you. It's you're generation that has us in this horrible economy, wars, and unwillingness to compromise in govt.

that's just one thread. i could do this for hours, but i think my point has been finally made.


BTW, remember that "penny at mc donalds" tale you told?

It's funny, I saw a guy at McDonald's today drop a penny at the drive through window and never gave it a second glance. He was driving an older model ford pickup that was rusting and falling apart. A year and a half ago I saw a guy driving a black proche and he also dropped a penny. But he opened his car door and picked it up.

i knew it sounded familiar......

We had a lady come in to an interview in a business suit... a bit overdressed, but whatever. She interviewed well and was someone the company wanted to hire. But when they pulled out the drug test kit (aka spit stick) she stood up, stated she wouldn't be able to pass it, and left the building. Another guy we actually did hire, showed up to orientation in sweat pants with no underwear and an old ratty t-shirt that was full of holes. And these are the people that are draining our system because they can't find jobs. There's no wonder.

[Common-Tater]

oh i see. it's "mean, nasty, and hateful" when it's about justin bieber, but it's all good when you say it about the poor.....

or here...

or here....

or again here....

then you get the old people here....

that's just one thread. i could do this for hours, but i think my point has been finally made.

BTW, remember that "penny at mc donalds" tale you told?

i knew it sounded familiar......

I don't see where I'm making fun of anyone or being vicious. Those are my opinions and I hold to them. Most of your posts spend more time attacking the poster (like this last thread) than you do focusing on the subject matter. This will be the last time I respond to anything you post. I see nothing constructive in replying to your sarcasm and sadism.

[michael medeski]

I don't see where I'm making fun of anyone or being vicious.

and you never will see it tater. i knew you would gobble-up that bieber bait. see how stupid i sounded just making stuff up?

remember.... "YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP, FOLKS!!"

[michael medeski]

I think Todd has terminated his membership to the Fence Post. Can't find any of his posts nor is he on the membership listing.

looks like tater went the same way as todd.

.....unless he is getting a new name again?

[HoosierHelen]

The FP would be a better place if Todd, LB, Evil, and Gray returned with their input. Unfortunately, most of their returns are unlikely. I never understood why Tater was allowed to disrespect our members and insult and accuse us at the levels he was allowed? It happened. We lost a good number of members due to this. :-(

At any rate, I continue to see the benefit of having a local forum where we are able to discuss local issues whether they be local benefits for charities, crimes that have impacted our communities, politics or religious beliefs that we may agree/disagree upon, all should be given the fresh air of discussion.

IF KPC should continue to hold an interest in maintaining a healthy dialog with their community, I believe they will find it will best serve their interest and also of their community, if they recognize that their community is not completely represented and supported by people who hold beliefs such as Tater.

Hopefully, KPC will allow their readers to continue to hold informative discussions without the inclusions of disrespectful, insulting, content of misinformation based on political bias? Content of this sort could indeed make for interesting and more informative reading.

[HomeyG]

The FP would be a better place if Todd, LB, Evil, and Gray returned with their input. Unfortunately, most of their returns are unlikely. I never understood why Tater was allowed to disrespect our members and insult and accuse us at the levels he was allowed? It happened. We lost a good number of members due to this. :-(

At any rate, I continue to see the benefit of having a local forum where we are able to discuss local issues whether they be local benefits for charities, crimes that have impacted our communities, politics or religious beliefs that we may agree/disagree upon, all should be given the fresh air of discussion.



IF KPC should continue to hold an interest in maintaining a healthy dialog with their community, I believe they will find it will best serve their interest and also of their community, if they recognize that their community is not completely represented and supported by people who hold beliefs such as Tater.

Hopefully, KPC will allow their readers to continue to hold informative discussions without the inclusions of disrespectful, insulting, content of misinformation based on political bias? Content of this sort could indeed make for interesting and more informative reading.

Sorry Helen but I have to respectfully disagree with some of your comments. Some of Tater's personal attacks were no worse than some I have read on the Fence Post directed towards him and others. Its unfortunate that we couldn't keep the discussions on issues and not personalities but that seems the way of the internet. Admittedly there are some from the left that no longer post but I also know there are just as many from the right that no longer post because of attacks from the left. Some that come to mind are cynical foe, troublesome one, trowlison and minuteman and even I have taken sabbaticals now and then and likewise for torget who very seldom posts anymore. What I am saying is that it doesn't help to find skeletons in others' closets without looking in our own first.

[HoosierHelen]

looks like tater went the same way as todd.

.....unless he is getting a new name again?

Should Tater decide to change his name one more time and post under another alias, ...it will not offer him a solid disguise. His negative attitude, personality and sarcastic attitude will bleed through very shortly where ever he decides to go. Most of us will recognize him again shortly. We all eventually need to mature and accept responsibility for our actions. Best move he can make...step up and...Man up!

[Toro Rosso]

Should Tater decide to change his name one more time and post under another alias, ...it will not offer him a solid disguise. His negative attitude, personality and sarcastic attitude will bleed through very shortly where ever he decides to go. Most of us will recognize him again shortly. We all eventually need to mature and accept responsibility for our actions. Best move he can make...step up and...Man up!

Pot, call kettle black! Lol!!!

[HoosierHelen]

Pot, call kettle black! Lol!!!

Please clue me in Toro on what other names I have been posting under on FP? Inasmuch as I know that the answer is...NONE...I must now inquire why you make such an accusation?

Got a truthful response Toro Rosso? No LOL coming from me, Toro. I sincerely am looking for your HONEST response?

I am waiting for your TRUTHFUL response....will be waiting Toro......

[Toro Rosso]

Please clue me in Toro on what other names I have been posting under on FP? Inasmuch as I know that the answer is...NONE...I must now inquire why you make such an accusation?

Got a truthful response Toro Rosso? No LOL coming from me, Toro. I sincerely am looking for your HONEST response?

I am waiting for your TRUTHFUL response.

No other names. But you are quick to point a finger at someone! A do as i say (Not as i do Do) liberal hypocrisy about you, and most others on here!

[TheBigB]

I have been on dozens of Internet forums, with people from various walks of life. In some cases, they are completely anonymous to each other. In other cases, they have met each other on many occasions and are (otherwise) good friends. On none of the forums where politics were brought up have I EVER seen people maintain a civil discourse. In a few threads, it may be successful, but in the end people's strong feelings come out, names get called, and people end up mad at each other.

It is human nature. People that think they can discuss political issues nicely or at least civilly are in most cases idealistic, and in some cases arrogant ("we are better than that"). To pull out a relatively meaningless cliche, it is what it is.

[hairypumper]

No other names. But you are quick to point a finger at someone! A do as i say (Not as i do Do) liberal hypocrisy about you, and most others on here!

Then just leave and don't come back. I've viewed your posts and found nothing useful or positive in any of them. Trust me, you won't be missed.

[HoosierHelen]

No other names. But you are quick to point a finger at someone! A do as i say (Not as i do Do) liberal hypocrisy about you, and most others on here!

Toro, I needed to refresh my thoughts on what the current description of a 'liberal hypocrisy' of me may include. As I combined the 2 words, I did not get a combined defination. However, under the defination of 'hypocrisy', the current defination listed the following descriptions:

Hypocrisy

Insincerity
Double standards
Pretense
Duplicity
Two-facedness

It is most uncomfortable to realize this is how I am perceived by you and most likely others on our FP. I do not find these personal traits to be favorable or desirable for anyone of good character. Within my self image, I view myself as one who stands up to speak against these same characteristics when I observe them in others.

I do have 2 reactions to your observation of me. First, I intend to increase my personal self-awareness in an effort to recognize these negative traits within myself when/if they manifest their traits to me. I intend to NOT include these characteristics in my daily living. My 2nd reaction is to not allow anyone who knows me on such a limited basis to impose brands upon me with harmful and undeserved labels. Inasmuch as I am capable of being honest with myself in these areas, I am not concerned that accusations of my personal character flaws from you are deserved.

[blue adept]

I have been on dozens of Internet forums, with people from various walks of life. In some cases, they are completely anonymous to each other. In other cases, they have met each other on many occasions and are (otherwise) good friends. On none of the forums where politics were brought up have I EVER seen people maintain a civil discourse. In a few threads, it may be successful, but in the end people's strong feelings come out, names get called, and people end up mad at each other.

It is human nature. People that think they can discuss political issues nicely or at least civilly are in most cases idealistic, and in some cases arrogant ("we are better than that"). To pull out a relatively meaningless cliche, it is what it is.

I agree most wholeheartedly.

[blue adept]

Sorry Helen but I have to respectfully disagree with some of your comments. Some of Tater's personal attacks were no worse than some I have read on the Fence Post directed towards him and others. Its unfortunate that we couldn't keep the discussions on issues and not personalities but that seems the way of the internet. Admittedly there are some from the left that no longer post but I also know there are just as many from the right that no longer post because of attacks from the left. Some that come to mind are cynical foe, troublesome one, trowlison and minuteman and even I have taken sabbaticals now and then and likewise for torget who very seldom posts anymore. What I am saying is that it doesn't help to find skeletons in others' closets without looking in our own first.

I disagree with your statement Homey, While occasionally tater makes a valid point, he usually reverts to name calling, grouping, or just downright farfetched ideas to make a point. He claims to be a Biblical scholar, but doesn't know the rudiments of the Bible, He claims to be a retail person, yet uses other gossip as fact, he is a security guard, and proves his worth by getting on-line during work, and then blaming a fence post user as the one that turned him in. Are you sure this is the person that you want to use to make your point? I will accept any fallout.

[michael medeski]

He claims to be a Biblical scholar, but doesn't know the rudiments of the Bible, He claims to be a retail person, yet uses other gossip as fact, he is a security guard

he claimed to be many things. here a few i could think of off the top of my head, but if you took some time i know you could find more....

when I was substitute teaching there.

when I worked at K-Mark as a supervisor.

spent some time training as a reserve police officer in Garrett.

I spent a couple years as a Michigan State Police Explorer

I was working at a Bible Conference Center on Lake Michigan.

As a contractor, I've worked in Union Facilities...Eaton & GE.

When I worked at Eaton ...... By the time I'd been there 3 years

I have 8 1/2 years of experience as a security supervisor/manager.

I've been doing security now since 2003.

One location I managed (in Fort Wayne) had 14 officers on 1st shift.

In most shops I've worked in.....The aluminum foundry in Butler (

I've applied at restaurants (even fast food) and retail in order to have a second job... makes sense since I have a lot of experience in those 2 areas from my college days.

i seemed like he always had a job or "factual story" that pertained to the conversation.

[blue adept]

he claimed to be many things. here a few i could think of off the top of my head, but if you took some time i know you could find more....

























i seemed like he always had a job or "factual story" that pertained to the conversation.

he is like walter mitty, that being said, I do not care if he ever posts again.

[HoosierHelen]

I have been on dozens of Internet forums, with people from various walks of life. In some cases, they are completely anonymous to each other. In other cases, they have met each other on many occasions and are (otherwise) good friends. On none of the forums where politics were brought up have I EVER seen people maintain a civil discourse. In a few threads, it may be successful, but in the end people's strong feelings come out, names get called, and people end up mad at each other.

It is human nature. People that think they can discuss political issues nicely or at least civilly are in most cases idealistic, and in some cases arrogant ("we are better than that"). To pull out a relatively meaningless cliche, it is what it is.

What you say here is true, BigB. As we watch the professional politicians in their debates and commercials, even when they try to keep things civil, it generally dissolves into negative name calling and sarcasms. If the professionals have this difficulty, perhaps it is the nature of the beast of human nature.